Hayeren! (Armenian)

[Drtad]

So, I was in Istanbul about a week ago...and now I really don't understand why people in the Diaspora are saying that Armenians in Turkey are being "suppressed". We went into a huge, 5 story jewelry shop right on the banks of the Bosphorus next to the Egyptian Bazaar, and it was owned by none other than......an Armenian. He said that he (and most other of the 60,000 Armenians living there) don't care for the politics, they're just there for the economics.

I believe they are suppressing people who speak out like Hrant Dink was. People who own a bazaar wouldn't pose much of a threat to the ideals of the government I don't think.

[therussian]

And yet they had thousands of people rally behind him after his death.

[Rex Armeniae]

I would blame "ultranationalists" for that. I cant think that innocent turkish ppl would hate armenians. For what then, what have armenians really ever done to them?
So thats probably the reason why many Turks supported Hrant dink.

[Ermeni]

And yet they had thousands of people rally behind him after his death.

to stop a rally like that would be stupid an would really look bad......in stead they allowed the rally and it sure looked good in the eyes of the world community.....

but that is in istanbul......the Armenians in sassoun, diyarbakir and other parts of eastern Turkey has a very difficult time that's why everyone moves to Istanbul....that's what my family did before going to Sweden....

it's not only the government (who has been improving more and more) it's many people who has hatred towards the armenians.....

http://www.hairenik.com/HairenikTV/HA_TV_Clip60.htm

the state don't gain anything just by oppressing random Armenians.....people like Hrant Dink....they are the ones who are oppressed.. they are the one who can't talk without stumbling over article 301.....

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so....how was it in Turkey...did you meet many Armenians? did you go to any other place besides instanbul

[therussian]

We met quite a few Armenians actually. We were also in Izmir. Ephesus was so awesome

[Ermeni]

ok sounds cool.....

[therussian]

I'll post some pictures soon

[Ermeni]

yeah that would be great ^^^^

BTW...i just saw this....

VIDEO SETS RECORD STRAIGHT ON BOB LIVINGSTON'S GENOCIDE DENIAL:

http://www.anca.org/press_releases/p....php?prid=1233

[Drtad]

We met quite a few Armenians actually. We were also in Izmir. Ephesus was so awesome

Where else did you go? Ephesus must have been fantastic! An ancient Greek city right on the corner of a peninsula=fun.

@Bulgaroctonus
I meant that anyone who speaks out gets hit with article 301.

[therussian]

Ah, I understand.

In Turkey, we only visited Istanbul and Izmir (and its surroundings: Ephesus, house of Virgin Mary).

In Greece we went to Rhodes (which was awesome), Athens (which I'm kind of dissapointed with), and Katakalonos (nearby is Olympia, but we decided to just relax and swim in the sea).

In Italy we were in Napoli, Tuscany, and Rome.

[Drtad]

Athens (which I'm kind of dissapointed with)

Just wondering, why were you dissappointed with Athens? I'd like to go there sometime later in my life time so I'd like to know what its like beforehand.

[Rex Armeniae]

I wonder that to, it should be such a lovely city... dirty air though in the city because of the trafic lol

Im going to go to Thessaloniki soon, where my friends hometown is. But thats prob in a couple of years.

[karo]

Hayer jan I need some information on David Bek but can't find any online can any o you give some information shnorakal em


Karo

[Lord William]

Parev engarnar

Hello fellow armenians, im new to this forum (well not really i start a long time ago but never really stayed long).... im glad that we have so many armenians on this forum, and i hope we meet all of them....lol

[Lord William]

ench hyegagan yerker tun ga sircres

[Drtad]

Hayer jan I need some information on David Bek but can't find any online can any o you give some information shnorakal em


Karo

I am not an expert but I believe he led Karabakh in an open revolt against the Safavid Empire which gained Karabakh its independence for about a decade until his death. His successors were incompetent I guess, my memory is very sketchy on this, I learned it in Armenian school quite a while ago...

[karo]

THank you Drtad and Sir William welcome

[Drtad]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bek

The wikipedia page has some info on Bek.

EDIT: By the way, does anyone have any names and info on Armenian merchants from medieval times and what resources the Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia traded?

[Drtad]

Yes Andranikin yerkuh guh sirem.

[karo]

Arevmedsian Hayeren mi khitch djvar e or hasknam bajds or tjisht haskta siradz yerkeri masin e. Yes aram Asatrianin ksirem lsel u karnig sarkisainin. urgusnel s.hat sirun yerker unin