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    Default how does marriage offer work?

    Hello
    I need help on the bride agreement and I could not find a suitable explanation, maybe I’m dump but I can’t really have the diplomatic interaction in the menu.

    I got in the family tree both a price and a princess unmarried but I do not understand how combine a wedding with another faction.
    I sending around my diplomats; when interacting with a wandering princess I never got the bride offering available, when interacting with a foreign general or settlement I do got the bride option but when selected the agreement screen shows to whom I’m offering and what I would get in exchange (region and/or army) then asked to select the princess for the bride, BUT nowhere I can find the list of my available (single) princess.

    How can I offer my princesses for marriage?
    How can I offer my princes/generals for marriage?
    How can I have my princess wandering (actually where my princess is In the map?)

    Thank you

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    Default Re: how does marriage offer work?

    well, only faction heirs can marry foreign princesses. so if the faction heir is already married, the option will not appear.

    Generals (so characters not included in the family tree) can be married to your princess anytime. If he is from your own faction the chanches are 100%. if he is from another faction you lure their general to your faction. although this can backfire.

    Not sure what you mean by the third question, but if you right click on "agents", you get a list of all priests, merchants, spies diplomats assassins and princesses that ar currently active. and then you can find them more easily (i assume you mean this)

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    Default Re: how does marriage offer work?

    First of all, to marry your prince/princess to another faction, that other faction must have an unmarried princess/prince. I think it also must be allied to you...
    You can offer those marriages to another faction through diplomats or a princess (A princess can do the job of a diplomat, too. She can perform 2 types of actions, the marriage thing and the diplomatic stuff.)
    A princess can also "steal" or seduce a general of another faction, marrying him and thus making him a family member. But if she fails, the general will seduce her instead and she will leave your faction.
    You can also marry a princess to one of your generals by making her "speak" to him, like you would do to a foreign general, but this time you'll have 100% success.
    You move princesses like every other character. To spot them easily (and every other character), right-click on the little tab that says Agents and is placed at the top left of where the unit-cards appear when you have an army selected. Do the same to the other tabs there (Armies, Cities) they're very useful.
    Also, not all the females in your family tree are princesses!

    I do got the bride option but when selected the agreement screen shows to whom I’m offering and what I would get in exchange (region and/or army) then asked to select the princess for the bride, BUT nowhere I can find the list of my available (single) princess.
    I didn't quite understand this, so i can't help.
    Also, it's very possible i've said something wrong, but surely others will correct me and add to what i said.



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    Default Re: how does marriage offer work?

    Thanks, not all still clear but I see some light.

    Quote Originally Posted by EP!anastasi View Post
    First of all, to marry your prince/princess to another faction, that other faction must have an unmarried princess/prince.
    I see there could be a issue there, how can I see whether there are avaialble ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by EP!anastasi View Post
    Also, not all the females in your family tree are princesses!
    Didn't know that; which one becomes a princess? must come from a particular branch of the tree or?
    If I got a women in the tree who is not a princess (that is not displayed as movable agent) can I try to offer her to a faction for a political marriage? That is: what can I do with her?

    I get a bit more the hang of Princess, but still not clear how I can find a suitable wife for my heir/family member/General?

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    Default Re: how does marriage offer work?

    well you cant see it untill you go into diplomacy screen, so you have to use a diplomat (i think, im not 100% sure)

    only the women who are in the primary branch of your family tree become princesses. so daughters of the leader and heir.

    For women that are not princesses, you will get offers from time to time (at the start of the turn) for them to be married off to characters (who are said to come from the upper class families in your empire). so you can bring in new blood in the tree. these offers also exist for princesses.

    you dont have to accept the offer. if you think the man offered is not much use (bad traits, low loyalty, very old etc..), you can refuse the offer and wait for a better one. But if the woman becomes to old (i think around 45 or more), she cant be married off anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iosys View Post
    How can I offer my princesses for marriage?
    Move them around the map and right-click on every settlement and stack with a general - you will see a message popup saying "no marriageable general" or a percentage chance for success


    Quote Originally Posted by iosys View Post
    How can I offer my princes/generals for marriage??
    You don't want to do that with a general as you might lose the general to the other faction, unless he is a great charmer and steals the princess!! I think you have to check if they are unmarried then move them to the princess, or wait for the princess to contact them. For a prince, it comes up as an option during negotiations for alliance. This makes the alliance more reliable and may give the prince some useful attributes but still doesn't prevent them from attacking you.

    Quote Originally Posted by iosys View Post
    How can I have my princess wandering (actually where my princess is In the map?)
    She's the lady with the pointy hat and dress, she starts in a town or city so you can't see her until she moves out. Right-click on the faction symbol and choose "lists" - this is a very useful screen that lists all your armies, settlements, and agents. Choose the Agents tab to see the princesses. Note that your princesses have to be at least 16 years old before they can operate for you. Each time a pnincess is successful her charm rating (in hearts) goes up and she becomes more likely to succeed - I have one rated as a "diplomatic weapon"! If she wanders around too much she will get a "secret lover" and her charm rating will go down but if she is successful enough that won't matter.

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    Default Re: how does marriage offer work?

    To marry your faction heir to a foreign princess
    maybe what your missing is
    you must initiate diplomacy with the potential bride on the map, not just any member of her faction

    and there might be some catch with allies being at war making the alliance option unavailable

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    Default Re: how does marriage offer work?

    There are three ways to marry princesses

    1) Randomly: the game will offer you marriage proposals which you may accept or decline.
    2) Princess Agent: send your princess as an agent to visit generals (includes those in cities). If the generals are unmarried, then you can propose.
    3) Diplomatic Marriage Alliance: if your or your opponent's faction heir are unmarried, then you can negotiate to have that heir marry the other faction's princess.

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    Default Re: how does marriage offer work?

    (Tip?) A marriage alliance improves the relations between the two factions
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