AI regions and rebel armies

[Aymer de Valence]

Hey guys, just thought i'd ask this question as it is quite a pressing matter for me

So, in my current English campaign (Hard/Hard), I'm at war with Scotland, and haven't presently been able to muster an army large enough to capture Aberdeen (playing KGC mod), so i have resorted to.....literally destroying the city with assassins through sabotage. I figured, if i could drive down the public happiness in the city by destroying churches, inns + barracks, then eventually a large rebel army would spring up in the region, as it would do for my own regions, and cause the Scots a great deal of bother - while in the mean time i form an army large enough to invade.

The issue at hand is, after several turns of destroying every single building possible in the city with numerous assassins and witnessing the public order plummet to 55%, there is STILL no rebel army. I have a spy in the city, and have been monitoring the public order - it has been between 55 and 70% for a good 10 or so turns now, yet still no rebellion. To make it more annoying, one of my city's (York) public order dropped only slightly down to 90%....and on the next turn a rebel army spawned in the region.....

I am aware of AI bonuses on higher difficulties, but do these bonuses extent to a lower probability of rebel armies spawning in their regions aswell??? It's not even as if it's a glitch - a rebel army spawned in a Welsh region, and their public order much greater than 55%. I cannot drive down the order anymore - no buildings in the city remain operational (the inn and church are completely destroyed) and the AI has strangely left only 1 unit to garrison it....while keeping 2 huge armies outside. I'd be interested to know whether i should simply give up destroying the city, or whether my plan will actually work

Thanks

[Surgeon]

Public order in the city won't affect the chances of rebels spawning in the region as I recall, but you can try to make the city rebel by stuffing it full of spies, sabotaging public order buildings as you have done and perhaps killing any family members or generals who're in there.

Rebel army spawning in the region is slightly affected, IIRC, by the authority of their faction leader and his proximity to the region in question. Boxed in as Scotland is, I don't think you have much of a chance of getting their faction leader far away from there, but perhaps if you kill one faction leader the next one will have less authority.

[Aymer de Valence]

Ahhhh this is interesting, i had always thought that public order led to the rebellions. It seems i'll have to shift my strategy then, they have plenty of family members nearby cheers!

[Sitalkes]

Are you saying that there's no relationship between putting taxes on Very High and the spawning of rebel armies? To me it has always seemed that there was some relationship between how happy a city was and the spawning of rebel armies most of the time, even if it is possible for such armies to spawn right in the most loyal and happy part of your empire. Nevertheless if you check the insurgency level of a city (in the Britannia campaign) it is a pretty good indication of where a rebel army will spawn.