Human and Animal Cloning.

**~~John ''True Grit'' Wayne~~** · March 13, 2012, 06:23 AM

I just want to hear the pros and cons people have towards human cloning.

I believe its currently illegal.I think people should have hearts and livers and eyes etc cloned.

Could we bring extinct dinosaurs back to life.

Could we bring back great minds like Leonardo and Da Vinci and Einstein so they can create more things.

Should we at least try to clone in order to advance the human race?

We may be able to use research into genes to cure illnesses?

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I magine a world where your leg gets blown off and you get a new one made.And it gets sown on....

**~~Heavy Weapons Guy~~** · March 13, 2012, 06:40 AM

All cloned Humans would be like zombies, they wont have a soul.

**Vanoi** · March 13, 2012, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by Twilight Sparkle

All cloned Humans would be like zombies, they wont have a soul.

Humans have cloned a sheep before. It seemed fine.

**~~John ''True Grit'' Wayne~~** · March 13, 2012, 07:11 AM

There is no soul.Unless its soul music...We could put a human mind in a computer someday or a robot and live forever.Scientists say its possible.
Should we use human embryos or is religion holding that back.
As for zombies they are not so bad they just get a bad press.

**Col. Tartleton** · March 13, 2012, 07:41 AM

There is no good reason to clone people or animals. Cloning individual tissues or organs is fine.

**~~John ''True Grit'' Wayne~~** · March 13, 2012, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton

. Cloning individual tissues or organs is fine.

Does the church stop this happening.

**LSJ** · March 13, 2012, 10:22 AM

Small things like organ tissues can be used to treat organ damage, but I see no reason to clone entire humans. Creating new body parts is great because they do not have the same risk of rejection issues as regular transplants.

**pchalk** · March 15, 2012, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton

There is no good reason to clone people or animals. Cloning individual tissues or organs is fine.

not true, we could build armies

**Himster** · March 13, 2012, 10:39 AM

Cloning extinct and endangered animals would be a good idea. There have been five "successful" human clones made, but all were destroyed as embryos. It is possible to clone humans but the ban should remain in place until safety can be guaranteed.

**Sphere** · March 13, 2012, 02:55 PM

The main concern about human cloning right now is that humans have a built in "aging" mechanism in their DNA such that any chromosome can only duplicate itself a limited number of times. Which while very handy for preventing cancer (a region of run away cell reproduction will usually die of "old age" and not turn into a dangerous cancer), means that a human cloned from a ~30 year adult DNA will have ~30 years shaved off it's life, which is rather cruel.

But hypothetically if the negative effects were to be completely mitigated, I see no harm in human cloning. We don't consider an identical twin to be inherently harmed, or to have a dimished life simply because they have the same DNA as someone else.

(and slightly OT; we also know that epi-genetics (the turning on or off of certain genes due to enviromental factors.) , play a big role in the biological outcomes of individuals, such that even having the same DNA doesn't mean two individuals will have the same body.)

**hellheaven1987** · March 13, 2012, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Sphere

The main concern about human cloning right now is that humans have a built in "aging" mechanism in their DNA such that any chromosome can only duplicate itself a limited number of times. Which while very handy for preventing cancer (a region of run away cell reproduction will usually die of "old age" and not turn into a dangerous cancer), means that a human cloned from a ~30 year adult DNA will have ~30 years shaved off it's life, which is rather cruel.

Which is why stem cells come to play.

**saglam2000** · March 13, 2012, 02:58 PM

I see nothing wrong in cloning people and treating them like trash.

**Sphere** · March 13, 2012, 03:17 PM

I see nothing wrong in cloning people and treating them like trash.

We already have Mexicans.

**Col. Tartleton** · March 13, 2012, 05:24 PM

We have an explosive world population. It doesn't make sense to clone people period. Organ farming (not cutting up intentionally brain dead people, just growing organs) is fine. And it doesn't make any sense to mistreat clones instead of "real people" that's just petty racism by another name. When that stuff happens in stories it's supposed to be a social commentary on the history of slavery and racism, not a good idea...

Originally Posted by Tom Cruise

Does the church stop this happening.

I don't know. The Catholic Church says I can't even wear condoms unless its when I have sex with gay prostitutes. Which they also advise against, but figure that morals are already out the window, so I may as well not get AIDS. So if they're against farming kidneys that's on them. I try to only listen to the Catholic teachings which seem sane. Like eating fish tacos on Friday. We should eat fish once a week, it's delicious.

**hellheaven1987** · March 13, 2012, 05:27 PM

Instead human cloning why don't we put more focus on bioroid?

**Watercress** · March 13, 2012, 05:29 PM

I think it would be fine to clone a human, but only to harvest it's succulent, juicy organs. If you need to do it like that.

**SLN445** · March 13, 2012, 06:16 PM

We don't really have any reason to clone a full human, when we do however and its better then the negatives i see nothing wrong with cloning.

**hellheaven1987** · March 13, 2012, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by SLN445

We don't really have any reason to clone a full human, when we do however and its better then the negatives i see nothing wrong with cloning.

Not until we start a Clone War...

But seriously in an attrition war clones would be perfect to provide manpower.

**SLN445** · March 13, 2012, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by hellheaven1987

Not until we start a Clone War...

But seriously in an attrition war clones would be perfect to provide manpower.

Aye, though depends on how much it takes to produce a fully formed clone and the time do to do so.
No point in cloning for a war if you cant get these clone troops grown, trained and out in the battlefield quickly.