Harry Potter and Guns

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    Toho said:

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    so i was wondering why dont these magicians pack guns, i remember at the last movie there was an army (yes i haven't read the books) all carrying wands and it came to me...why did that kid destroy the bridge when he could have just put machine guns or etc and just kill those guys down there.

    so are Harry Potter Magicians impervious to bullets and bombs or is the wand considered faster than a hand gun?
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    Suspension of disbelief.
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    D.B. Cooper said:

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    JK Rowling was rumoured to have said that a Muggle with a shotgun would beat wizard with a wand 9 times out of 10.

    Pretty sure it's just a rumour though.

     
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    Would defeat the purpose of there being wand combat.

    Plus if I remember correctly most "muggle" devices won't work on Hogwarts grounds...Idk if a gun would be an exception to that.
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  5. SLN445 said:

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    Im sure theres some excuse that makes Guns ineffective.

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    Plus if I remember correctly most "muggle" devices won't work on Hogwarts grounds...Idk if a gun would be an exception to that.

    Are we talking electronic devices or just devices in general?
     
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    If you notice, Harry Potter and Ministry of Magic belongs to a group of conservative party, who dislike any Muggle stuff and only barely tolerate Muggle. On the other hand, Voldemort and his group represents an Ultra-conservative party, which hate anything about Muggle and want to destroy Muggle. The pitiful war between this two parties is like watching the stupid competition between Italian Fascist and German Nazis, which is also why I find this series very boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLN445 View Post
    Im sure theres some excuse that makes Guns ineffective.




    Are we talking electronic devices or just devices in general?
    It might have been just electronic devices, but who knows.

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    If you notice, Harry Potter and Ministry of Magic belongs to a group of conservative party, who dislike any Muggle stuff and only barely tolerate Muggle. On the other hand, Voldemort and his group represents an Ultra-conservative party, which hate anything about Muggle and want to destroy Muggle. The pitiful war between this two parties is like watching the stupid competition between Italian Fascist and German Nazis, which is also why I find this series very boring.
    Difference is that though the ministry finds themselves superior, they don't kill people who can't defend themselves just to prove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gen. Chris View Post
    Difference is that though the ministry finds themselves superior, they don't kill people who can't defend themselves just to prove it.
    Ya, just like Mussolini did not send Jews to concentration camps but nevertheless found them inferior race; the reality is that Ministry of Magic is purely fascist and condemned Muggle as inferior class than magic class - they just did not become nazis and threw everyone into concentration camps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Ya, just like Mussolini did not send Jews to concentration camps but nevertheless found them inferior race; the reality is that Ministry of Magic is purely fascist and condemned Muggle as inferior class than magic class - they just did not become nazis and threw everyone into concentration camps.
    Whatever you say...


    Did you even read the whole series? Not everyone felt that way...And in the books the Ministry actually did attempt to help the muggles when they could.

    And if you think about it in that context, wizards would be the superior race. Would that be justification for doing things? Of course not, but in the context of the story, wizards ARE superior.

    Now if you wanted to go with how the wizarding world treated OTHER beings in the magical world, I would agree with you.
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    the_mango55 said:

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    Guns would be super effective...

    For a few months, then they would invent some easy to cast anti-bullet spell that makes them all but invincible to guns.

    Harry Potter magic is like that.
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    It's implied several times in the books - and Rowling has pretty much outright stated it - that the wizarding world is hilariously backwards. They do everything with magic, regardless of there being a far superiour non-magical alternative.

    And an anti-bullet spell wouldn't necessarily work, unless amply prepared. A spell in the HP-verse needs to be either spoken loudly or formed within your mind, bullets are faster than that.
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    Not necessarily, assuming the spell would be a 'shield' of some sorts that protects against all bullets, a engagement would be won by the wizards unless the muggle could take them all out in a few seconds. Of course the Harry Potter universe is the silliest thing since Pokemon so even debating this is a bit on the edge.
     
  13. SturmChurro said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    so i was wondering why dont these magicians dont pack guns, i remember at the last movie there was army (yes i haven't read the books) all carrying minds and it came to me...why did that kid destroy the bridge when he could have just put machine guns or etc and just kill those guys down there.

    so are Harry Potter Magicians impervious to bullets and bombs or is the wand considered faster than a hand gun?
    That would be a nice parody movie to put guns against Wizards. Though I can't say I really watch any of those movie parody movies.

    It would take the whole magic theme out of Harry Potter though wouldn't it?

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    Not necessarily, assuming the spell would be a 'shield' of some sorts that protects against all bullets, a engagement would be won by the wizards unless the muggle could take them all out in a few seconds. Of course the Harry Potter universe is the silliest thing since Pokemon so even debating this is a bit on the edge.
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    That would be a nice parody movie to put guns against Wizards. Though I can't say I really watch any of those movie parody movies.

    It would take the whole magic theme out of Harry Potter though wouldn't it?


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    to be fair, I don't see how bombs would really help against a civilization who mostly reside in areas which are either crammed into alternate magical planes or areas with massive enchantments to make them unfindable.
    However, it is a pretty backwards world, as mentioned, which is why any faction that actually thought to adopt the best techniques of both muggles and humanity would probably have a massive advantage- a combination of severe underestimation and a powerful close-mindedness seems to limit either side of doing just that, though. The wizards openly treat the muggles as if it were still the middle ages, and only adapt to hide themselves, even as their numbers dwindle and the gap between viable magic and technology closes. The only ones who recognize this troubling change are those who react in fear and those who obsess over it and are shunned by society for it.
     
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    We all know those narrow-mind wizards would only accept civilization if Voldement was killed by Muggle technology... Speak about that, I wonder why there is no special military units under Queen to deal rogue wizards like Voldement - it is kindly retarded that Queen would allow a rotten organization called Ministry of Magic to do a poor job without asking SAS arrest all of them.

    Which is why I quitted reading this series after volume 4th.
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    We all know those narrow-mind wizards would only accept civilization if Voldement was killed by Muggle technology... Speak about that, I wonder why there is no special military units under Queen to deal rogue wizards like Voldement - it is kindly retarded that Queen would allow a rotten organization called Ministry of Magic to do a poor job without asking SAS arrest all of them.

    Which is why I quitted reading this series after volume 4th.
    but how can you arrest a government that is accessible only through magical means, all of which the ministry controls, not to mention the facts that they can control minds, teleport, and do just about anything? Plus, I don't even know if they have the Queen know; if I recall, it is just the Prime Minister, although I haven't read them in a while. And if she did, what could she possibly do- on first sight, wizards appear highly intimidating, and they could easily overpower any government. Granted, I say government- if they went insane and declared war on all mugglekind, they would be ground to dust.
    However, it seems like you are thinking like James Bond, not a precariously positioned government official with little information, and a lot of intimidation.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Which is why I quitted reading this series after volume 4th.
    You quit reading Harry Potter because the SAS didnt kill Voldemort and his underlings ?
     
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    Umm...because Harry Potter are novels for young kids. Kids don't go around shooting guns in novels written for kids.

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    Umm...because Harry Potter are novels for young kids. Kids don't go around shooting guns in novels written for kids.
    but they do attempt acts of torture and murder, commit acts of terrorism, and watch their best friend get stabbed in the chest with a knife, and that barely grazes into what the villains do. Sorry, but a little gunpowder hardly makes much of a difference.
     
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    Anyway, I'm a huge Harry Potter fan. But the universe really is down right creepy. Seriously, you can buy magical daterape drugs completely legal. And the wizards are either hatred-fuelled racists or ignorant idiots who doesn't have the slightest idea on what muggles do.

    Guns should work as far as I know. I think it's only electronic devices that screw up around magic.

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