over-powered nations at the start....

**fisher989** · March 05, 2012, 11:47 AM

hey everybody,

i know its fairly shamefull but im starting the scipii's again because im about 10 turns in and cartharage is just crazy powerfull, andi m playing on M/M

basically you know the drill, you take sycracause, then you go for liaybem, well i got syracause without any troubles, made friends with the greeks bla bla bla...then i go on thinking im gonna own cartharage with my big army and BAM they give me a big slam in the face with too big armies with archers,elphants and good infantary in!!

well i didnt just give up then, i decided too counter-attack them with my pretty good navy, i blockaded cartharage, and when liyabem got a port there aswell, i also sent a diplo to there land.

anyhow, somehow my blokade gets destroyed by a massive cartharage fleet...even though they are running in debt.. then i find out that THREE large cathaginian armies are closeing in on messana and syracause....not counting the huge army inside liyabem *sigh*

anyway sometimes ive had this problem- you start out and you immidiatly face an over-powered enemy you should be able to steamroll...anybody else get this occasionally?

ow yeah, the julis tried to take that island town near them, and it had a tiny cathagian force....they got defeated+they also went for palma....guess what DEFEATED!

fisher XD

**BrokenLantern** · March 05, 2012, 01:12 PM

Haha, this is hysterical. I've never, ever come across Carthage presenting a threat. In fact, I've taken Carthage on turn 8 once. Playing as Julii.

**Primo** · March 05, 2012, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by fisher989

hey everybody,

i know its fairly shamefull but im starting the scipii's again because im about 10 turns in and cartharage is just crazy powerfull, andi m playing on M/M

basically you know the drill, you take sycracause, then you go for liaybem, well i got syracause without any troubles, made friends with the greeks bla bla bla...then i go on thinking im gonna own cartharage with my big army and BAM they give me a big slam in the face with too big armies with archers,elphants and good infantary in!!

well i didnt just give up then, i decided too counter-attack them with my pretty good navy, i blockaded cartharage, and when liyabem got a port there aswell, i also sent a diplo to there land.

anyhow, somehow my blokade gets destroyed by a massive cartharage fleet...even though they are running in debt.. then i find out that THREE large cathaginian armies are closeing in on messana and syracause....not counting the huge army inside liyabem *sigh*

anyway sometimes ive had this problem- you start out and you immidiatly face an over-powered enemy you should be able to steamroll...anybody else get this occasionally?

ow yeah, the julis tried to take that island town near them, and it had a tiny cathagian force....they got defeated+they also went for palma....guess what DEFEATED!

fisher XD

You want a tipp? Enjoy the challenge.

Carthage has on M/M not enough bonuses to really get overpowered, so it seems like the ai finally did some intelligent things.

**Punic Hoplite** · March 05, 2012, 02:10 PM

My only question is how the hell is Carthage get archers???

Originally Posted by Fisher

too big armies with archers,elphants and good infantary

**Primo** · March 05, 2012, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Punic Hoplite

My only question is how the hell is Carthage get archers???

Carthage Archers are a made unit, which didn´t make it into the final faction roster - no one knows why.

He may have installed a mod.

**|Sith|Galvanized Iron** · March 05, 2012, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Nightmare Moon

Carthage Archers are a made unit, which didn´t make it into the final faction roster - no one knows why.

He may have installed a mod.

Yeah, they look like Numidian Archers, but with white uniforms. Well actually it is in a roster, Numidias.

**eXistenZ** · March 05, 2012, 02:27 PM

if there is one faction type overpowered, its the romans. best units and buildings. only seleucids have equally unit power, but they get crushed at the start

besides, at the beginning, carthage can barely make elpehants

**fisher989** · March 06, 2012, 03:43 AM

ow dear Xd , well i know it was kinda lame that i just gave in, but right at the start when i just need a core base and i cant get it....well anyway bit of development on the front, i tried again and i faced another powerfull carthrage,rather than give up i decided to go on a long migration, any how i wanted to give messan to greece but they attcked it before then which sucks, capu is now a rebel state XD XD, anyway i settled in byzantium, never actually been to this corner of theworld, and it looks pretty rich!

it shamfull i know XD, normally i can smashthe cartheys but i havent played in ages....guess im a bit rusty.

ps. i tried in a custom battel 3 full stacks of cathagnian armoured elephants against too full stacks of crack roman infantary.....elephants one XD

fisher

**Tehmuffin19** · March 13, 2012, 08:53 PM

I've never really been one for settling in another part of the world. It's an interesting concept that I've never tried. If I were you, I would've just kept at it. Elephants can be a daunting challenge, but there are ways to overcome them. Missiles are useful, and pigs are a must. Cavalry is bad, never use them. Oh, and if you're fighting a defensive battle which it sounds like you are, you might as well take every advantage you can get like hills and forests.