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    So there we are, only about 15 turns in and the Pope has called a crusade. Scotland loyally answers the call, hastily ships an army down to the Continent and marches it down to the Adriatic where we can hire a mercenary galley or two to speed our way to Jerusalem. And just before we can reach the coast and hire the galley, up pops an Inquisitor with an itchy trigger finger to try our Crusader general for heresy. The leaderless crusade army deserts en masse a turn later - nothing we could do about that.

    And then a year or two later the Pope whines that he's had to cancel the Crusade because no-one wanted to play. Well... ... perhaps ... ... if you didn't let your pet witchfinders loose on Crusader generals, this kind of thing wouldn't happen, ya dumba$$!

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    Never seen that happen. Hmm.
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    The Pope just trolololed you. ahaha I have to say this has never come up in all my time playing MIITW and its various modifications.


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    Things that happen - a classic case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    It´s rather unusual that inquisitors go after crusade generals, though, especially since they are a rather rare sight normally...
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    lol yeah sometimes things like that just happen. I once had my faction leader die the turn before i reached a crusade target


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    You got served by the pope :p

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    I've only had this game a month, six weeks maybe, and it's happened to me twice - shortly after I figured out that sending a crusade by sea from England is asking for mass desertions as you round Iberia. The first time I had a saved game to go back to but this time I nearly quit in disgust - happily I didn't and have been making the Sassenachs my despite the loss of the crusade army. Ah well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil-Gandel View Post
    I've only had this game a month, six weeks maybe, and it's happened to me twice - shortly after I figured out that sending a crusade by sea from England is asking for mass desertions as you round Iberia. The first time I had a saved game to go back to but this time I nearly quit in disgust - happily I didn't and have been making the Sassenachs my despite the loss of the crusade army. Ah well.
    Are you playing the game with any mods?
    After reading this line in one of the (vanilla) files (descr_campaign_db)
    <inquisitor_target_crusades bool="false"/>
    I thought what happened to you wasn't possible, except if you set this to true.
    But i could be wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by EP!anastasi View Post
    Are you playing the game with any mods?
    After reading this line in one of the (vanilla) files (descr_campaign_db)
    <inquisitor_target_crusades bool="false"/>
    I thought what happened to you wasn't possible, except if you set this to true.
    But i could be wrong
    I can't find descr_campaign_db. The game's just as-is straight out of the box. Never mind, it was annoying when it happened but the funny part was the pope whining five minutes later that no-one had responded to his call for a Crusade.

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    News just in, the AI in M2TW is incredibly retarded, you heard it hear first guys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil-Gandel View Post
    I can't find descr_campaign_db. The game's just as-is straight out of the box. Never mind, it was annoying when it happened but the funny part was the pope whining five minutes later that no-one had responded to his call for a Crusade.
    Oh, i see... so this is the out-of-the-box, vanilla behaviour
    Concerning that file, since the game is as you bought it you just can't see it cause it's packed and there's no need to unpack a file unless you want to mod it (edit it).

    And yeah, the AI is very dumb, and that can be pretty aggravating, but can also be pretty amusing

    I would prefer a much better AI, anyhow.
    And there indeed have been released many AIs from modders, but i've just started trying some of them, so i cannot really comment on them. But it can't be otherwise than that they are better than the vanilla - some less, some more.
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    Seems you got trolled. Yeah, the AI is stupid.
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    Maybe thats what he wanted you to do? You should have listened to Admiral Ackbar: IT'S A TRAP!!!!
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    Stoopid Pope
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    The TW AI is really good at trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yojimbo View Post
    lol yeah sometimes things like that just happen. I once had my faction leader die the turn before i reached a crusade target


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    I once had the Prince go on a Crusade to the Holy Land as the HRE (I already had Jerusalem but had used a crusade as an excuse to rush in a lot of reinforcements, as the Mongols were by this point on their way.) The Prince was the second of my crusading generals to arrive at the target, so by the time he arrived the Crusade was officially over - no sooner had his army set foot on the sands of Outremor when an inquisitor popped up out of nowhere and promptly burnt him at the stake for his troubles

    I remember being so pissed off at it (he had had a really cool name, "Athalwolf," and I was looking forward to seeing him as Emperor, haha), that I promptly declared war on the Papal States and ousted the Pope from power, managing, thanks to a large collection of allies, to install my own post-haste. But yeah, for whatever reason there is a LOT of heresy in the newly-founded Crusader States (it's probably a reaction to the melting pot of religion a crusade inevitably brings about), so inquisitors have a habit of popping up all around the Holy Lands...

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