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    This morning the border-town of Kosiir had been attacked by Assad's army. Thousands of people had been reported to have flee to neighboring Lebanon.

    Some 500 people had been reported to have died in Lebanon over the past 10 days, though it is hard to verify if the numbers are accurate.
    Yesterday, the Free Syria Army, an anti-Assad group made up mostly of deserters, reported of killing at least 135 of Assad's soldiers. Their report is unverified.

    Many of you probably also remember that the International Committee of the Red Cross and the Red Crescent had been denied access to Homs, a rebellious stronghold that was heavily bombed over the past month.

    While the people of Syria are either running for their lives or being summarily killed by their own government, and only a short while after the resistance received a publicly-acknowledged leader, Israel also offers to send humanitarian aid to the sick and wounded:
    in light of reports that thousands of Syrians have begun to escape the sweep in Lebanon, announced after - noon (Sunday) Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman officially that Israel is ready to provide humanitarian aid to citizens of Syria
    Israel's minister of Foreign Affairs, Avigdor Lieberman, is behind the decision:
    Lieberman said about the transfer of humanitarian aid, that the "State of the Jewish people can not sit around doing nothing when atrocities occur neighboring country and people are losing their world. Even if the nature of things is that Israel can not intervene in a country with which


    We do not have diplomatic relations, our moral duty to at least extend humanitarian help and inspire the world to stop the massacre".
    In short:
    Israel is saying "I'm sick of this crap, I'll do it myself" and wants to send aid independently from the failing attempts of the Red Cross. Amplifying the reasoning for Israel's dismay towards the Red Cross is its sense of identification with the oppressed people of Syria.

    What do you guys think - will the world give Israel the green light? Will it even ask for one? Will this move ignite a broader conflict?
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    We have a thread about this.

    The red cross was told to wait as booby traps had to be cleared b4 they can go in.Both sides are shooting each other so how can they just go in and be safe,protocol has to be maintained so as to send the food safely.
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    for Israel's dismay towards the Red Cross is its sense of identification with the oppressed people of Syria.
    Why would Israel have dismay for the red cross they are doing their best,If Syrian soldiers stop them what dpo you suggest Israeli trucks will do enter a country you are at war with and occupy some of their land(golan heights) and just send in aid yourselves.And will these trucks be welcome NO they will not be.As the rebels also hate Jews just like Assads gang of vipers.

    You cant send in aircraft or trucks as they will be attacked.How do we not know that Israel is not sending weapons in this aid as a longer drawn out battle between the rebels and the loyalists will further weaken the country of Syria.

    Dont pretend Israel cares about Syria.They are at war with them and occupy their land that has water supplys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Cruise View Post
    We have a thread about this.

    The red cross was told to wait as booby traps had to be cleared b4 they can go in.Both sides are shooting each other so how can they just go in and be safe,protocol has to be maintained so as to send the food safely.
    I doubt the Red Cross would have to worry about booby traps. If the rebels set any booby traps they set them for Syrian soldiers to trip. You would find these booby traps in rebel strongholds, not where civilians would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoth View Post
    I doubt the Red Cross would have to worry about booby traps. If the rebels set any booby traps they set them for Syrian soldiers to trip. You would find these booby traps in rebel strongholds, not where civilians would be.
    Yeah coz bobby traps landmines and bombs kill only "bad" guys.
    Main gott. Somebody should send you with this humanitarian help.
    Whole district become a rebel stronghold with civilians becoming a living sields and their houses become a battlefield.
    Traps can be evrywhere and they dont ask questions. they will kill military personel civilians or anywhere who will have not enough luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarissofoi View Post
    Yeah coz bobby traps landmines and bombs kill only "bad" guys.
    Thanks for missing the point of my post.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sarissofoi View Post
    Whole district become a rebel stronghold with civilians becoming a living sields and their houses become a battlefield.
    No it did not. Not all of Homs was a rebel stronghold. Civilian hospitals with no rebels near it or by it being shelled by Syrian artillery is not a rebel stronghold.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarissofoi View Post
    Traps can be evrywhere and they dont ask questions. they will kill military personel civilians or anywhere who will have not enough luck.
    The only place they would be is in rebel strongholds.a Civilians would not be in or near these places because of the booby traps and because of all the fighting that would be going on near those places. There was a reason why civilians were trying to hide so they wouldn't be killed by Syrian snipers are Syrian shelling.

    The Red Cross also wouldn't eb going to rebel strongholds to treat civilians.

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    Pretty good gesture.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Israel finds itself in a dilemma regarding Syria situations. The Jews of Syria don't want the Sunnis to come to power, but Assad is also a close friend of Israeli enemy Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Mov View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if Israel finds itself in a dilemma regarding Syria situations. The Jews of Syria don't want the Sunnis to come to power, but Assad is also a close friend of Israeli enemy Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by white-wolf View Post
    Jews of Syria? All 50 of them?
    I thought the community there was larger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Mov View Post
    I thought the community there was larger.
    Nope. IIRC, there are only, like, 30 Jews in Syria, all living in Damascus. I doubt that's such a great Israeli interest.
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    So the roles are reversed from Lebanon and Syria from the 80s? Maybe Lebanon should invade to restore order xD.

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    There are about 20,000 Jews living in the Golan which is Syrian territory. But they do have suspiciously Russian accents. Maybe Russian Jews from Khazar migrated there thousands of years ago and kept that Soviet twang?




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    There's a great Israeli interest in helping out the people suffering from executions and mass killing, only because they want freedom and democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rome101 View Post
    There's a great Israeli interest in helping out the people suffering from executions and mass killing, only because they want freedom and democracy.
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    Default Re: Thousands Flee from Syria to Lebanon; Israel to Push for ICRC Aid, Might Send Aid of Her Own

    Quote Originally Posted by white-wolf View Post
    Ohh, Irony.
    It actually is yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Rome101 View Post
    There's a great Israeli interest in helping out the people suffering from executions and mass killing, only because they want freedom and democracy.
    I highly doubt that this is the only reason behind Israel's decision.

    Anyway, regardless of which reasons and motives are behind this, it's a good thing that Israel have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rome101 View Post
    There's a great Israeli interest in helping out the people suffering from executions and mass killing, only because they want freedom and democracy.
    Really? You're sure that's the only motivation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rome101 View Post
    There's a great Israeli interest in helping out the people suffering from executions and mass killing, only because they want freedom and democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rome101 View Post
    There's a great Israeli interest in helping out the people suffering from executions and mass killing, only because they want freedom and democracy.
    What the hell did i just read..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rome101 View Post
    Amplifying the reasoning for Israel's dismay towards the Red Cross is its sense of identification with the oppressed people of Syria.
    In what way does Israel identify with an oppressed people when it runs the biggest concentration camp in human history?
    Once a political decision has been reached to proceed with internal disturbances in Syria, CIA is prepared, and SIS (MI6) will attempt to mount minor sabotage and coup de main [sic] incidents within Syria, working through contacts with individuals. Incidents should not be concentrated in Damascus. [A] necessary degree of fear, [...] frontier incidents and [staged] border clashes [will] provide a pretext for intervention. The CIA and SIS should use [...] capabilities in both psychological and action fields to augment tension. [Funding should be provided for a] Free Syria Committee [and arms should be supplied to] political factions with paramilitary or other actionist capabilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukonTrooper View Post
    In what way does Israel identify with an oppressed people when it runs the biggest concentration camp in human history?
    What concentration camp? You're talking as if the Palestinian are locked up in ghettos....

    Mind you, the West Bank is expansive and the Palestinians have the freedom to build whatever they want and travel wherever they want, in their own territory.
    If it's Gaza you're talking about, let me remind you that the border is OBVIOUSLY on lockdown (though Israel is sending thousands of tons of medicine, food, water etc., and only exiting the Strip to Israel is restricted). Did you expect us to just let suicide bombers run amok into Israel?
    Not to mention that the border with Egypt is open, so the Gazans aren't trapped in there or anything.

    Think you might just need to double-check the meaning of the phrase "concentration camp" there, buddy.
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