Religion in politics getting weird?

[lemondude]

I know majority of us is Christian and while I am not baptized I do go to church now and again, so I am not against it or any religion for that matter.

But here's the thing isn't too much being placed on religion in politics? I mean I'm fine with just saying you believe this or that and you respect values, but to go as far as to say non Christian can't run country well or getting signs god wants you to run is just too much.

michele bachmann I'm looking at you.....



Unless Jesus himself comes down to earth to run for president I'm not really interested what you are, except Scientology cause come on.....


It really has no barring on ones ability to run a country

[Phier]

I think its safe to say you are the only person looking at Michele Bachmann right now.

[lemondude]

I think its safe to say you are the only person looking at Michele Bachmann right now.

Not true, according to her also Jesus

[Phier]

But no one cares.

Religion is always tied to politics in one form or another. Hell when Al Gore gave his concession speech even he mentioned god a few times.

[Sir Winston Churchill]

I know majority of us is Christian and while I am not baptized I do go to church now and again, so I am not against it or any religion for that matter.

But here's the thing isn't too much being placed on religion in politics? I mean I'm fine with just saying you believe this or that and you respect values, but to go as far as to say non Christian can't run country well or getting signs god wants you to run is just too much.

michele bachmann I'm looking at you.....



Unless Jesus himself comes down to earth to run for president I'm not really interested what you are, except Scientology cause come on.....


It really has no barring on ones ability to run a country

Please do not assume "the majority of us are Christian". That's what's wrong with most religion in politics, they assume that everyone aside the soldiers of Satan want a nation in whatever messed up image they think is right.

Religion shouldn't be in matters of state, at all. No state in religion, no religion in state. It works both ways and separation of each from each other is in the Constitution for a reason. Even the mostly Christian Founding Fathers understood this.

Because the thing about Freedom and Liberty is that not everyone believes what you do. It's part of the Freedom of Religion and the freedom to think freely, it's what gives us so much liberty is to think for ourselves. When you get a politician, much like Rick Santorum, who essentially wants to shove his believes, mostly derived from religion, down the throats of others, you have a problem. Yes, you may be pro-life and think abortion is wrong for whatever reason, but the thing is is that not everyone thinks that. If you think it's wrong, then just don't do it. Don't try to force your beliefs on others, because for all you know you're wrong.

Religion should never been in politics. As far away as possible.

[Primo]

Please do not assume "the majority of us are Christian". That's what's wrong with most religion in politics, they assume that everyone aside the soldiers of Satan want a nation in whatever messed up image they think is right.

Religion shouldn't be in matters of state, at all. No state in religion, no religion in state. It works both ways and separation of each from each other is in the Constitution for a reason. Even the mostly Christian Founding Fathers understood this.

Because the thing about Freedom and Liberty is that not everyone believes what you do. It's part of the Freedom of Religion and the freedom to think freely, it's what gives us so much liberty is to think for ourselves. When you get a politician, much like Rick Santorum, who essentially wants to shove his believes, mostly derived from religion, down the throats of others, you have a problem. Yes, you may be pro-life and think abortion is wrong for whatever reason, but the thing is is that not everyone thinks that. If you think it's wrong, then just don't do it. Don't try to force your beliefs on others, because for all you know you're wrong.

Religion should never been in politics. As far away as possible.

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Since you mentioned Rick Santorum, I just assume now that you are talking about America mainly. And there lemondude is right: The majority of America is christian. Rick Santorum thus doesn´t shove down his beliefs down other throats, he shoves the believes of the majority down the throats of the minority, which you apparently are a member of. Big difference.

[John I Tzimisces]

That's fascinating and all nightmare moon, but polls that have actual information show that, on the issue of contraception alone, fewer than 20% of americans and less than a quarter of american catholics agree with Rick Santorum's stance.

There is Christian, and there is "Religious Affiliation: Christian" in the US.

[Primo]

That's fascinating and all nightmare moon, but polls that have actual information show that, on the issue of contraception alone, fewer than 20% of americans and less than a quarter of american catholics agree with Rick Santorum's stance.

I openly admit to have no knowlegde about Rick Santorum. And I ain´t gonna change that.

There is Christian, and there is "Religious Affiliation: Christian" in the US.

Explain further.

[John I Tzimisces]

I openly admit to have no knowlegde about Rick Santorum. And I ain´t gonna change that.


Explain further.

All the information you've pulled up is probably reflective of reality, but in the end, all it shows is whether people believe in god or not, and what flavor people like their god to be. There's no examination of what people's actual beliefs are.

GOP strategists are nervously biting their fingernails right now if moral issues like contraception become a central issue because, get this, sex is really really popular.

[Kanaric]

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Since you mentioned Rick Santorum, I just assume now that you are talking about America mainly. And there lemondude is right: The majority of America is christian. Rick Santorum thus doesn´t shove down his beliefs down other throats, he shoves the believes of the majority down the throats of the minority, which you apparently are a member of. Big difference.

78% of people don't go to church. That is just gallup calling people and them LYING saying they are christian because it makes them feel better.

[John I Tzimisces]

78% of people don't go to church. That is just gallup calling people and them LYING saying they are christian because it makes them feel better.

Not to mention half of those figures in the first results are from 50+ years ago.

Lots of closet atheists and agnostics, I find, anyhow. Those people who claim to be christians or whatnot and then express reservations about mystical aspects of religion.

[Timefool]

Religious controversy with politics in this country is nothing new. A recent case is peoples refusal to vote for JFK because he was Catholic.

[CDMan477]

That isn't really recent. Catholics were always looked upon with suspicion in this country. That's one reason why he was the first Catholic president after all.

[Condottiere 40K]

Religion tends to colour most politics, even in Communist countries where it's obvious lack is noticeable in public life.

It's influence is cyclical.

[Vítor Gaspar]

Religion tends to colour most politics in America (the continent).

In our almost 40 years of Democracy we never had a single candidate - be it for President or Parliament/Prime-Minister - that made religion a main issue in their campaign. Even those who followed Christian Democracy never did - Christian was just the name of the party, they didn't make a huge deal out of religion.

[Sir Winston Churchill]

Religion tends to colour most politics in America (the continent).

In our almost 40 years of Democracy we never had a single candidate - be it for President or Parliament/Prime-Minister - that made religion a main issue in their campaign. Even those who followed Christian Democracy never did - Christian was just the name of the party, they didn't make a huge deal out of religion.

While in the United States you are essentially black-listed by nearly half the nation for lacking "moral views". Oh, and mercy on the man who is both religious but doesn't "practice it" by supporting pro-choice or rights for homosexuals...

[magpie]

I suppose that is one of the hardships of living in a theocracy.

[Condottiere 40K]

Political strategists in the GOP are looking at four toxic concoctions and figuring out which cocktail the moderate swing elements in the electorate are most likely to swallow, and concluding a little Salt Lake is better than the foamy stuff.