Hello chaps this might be a bit off topic but i was curious if any of you know any great movies around this era. None black/white please i have watched a couple not so historically accurate but always something like The Patriot for example.
Thanks!
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Good Movies sorround this Era. (ETW)
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Master and Commander and Last of the Mohicans are two I can think of.
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There's a conspicuous deficiency of quality films from this era; that's the primary reason for why most people have a greater affinity associated with combat during the iron and middle ages. A movie with the quality of 300 or The Gladiator and set during a major military conflict in the 18th or 19th century is overdue.
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the patriot is amazing, the last mohican is too
when i saw the last mohican, the part that the indian took the heart of the british general(i think it was a general), i almost cry, and get so furious like i where a british hahahahha
it`s a remember that i think never i will forget , =) that scene is awesome
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Groan... the Patriot was appallingly bad. That's for sure.
While it doesn't have much in the way of military footage, I'm watching the John Adams mini-series - enjoying immensely. And if you haven't watched the Sharpe series, and also Hornblower, then do so. That is an order! Not always historically sound, but ripping good yarns! Both are set in the Napoleonic era however. The problem is, a lot of movies I think of are all US made from 1930s-1960s and indeed most are appallingly inaccurate, and often the UK ones weren't much better, although I will confess I do own Zulu. Ahem. I have watched the later versions of Charge of the Light Brigade (the 1960s one) and also Waterloo with Rod Steiger as Napoleon but the latter especially wasn't that great... Had it's moments.
Hollywood more often that not butchers this sort of thing.
I know it's after the period, but the two films I very much value in my collection are Gettysburg (1993) and Gods & Generals (2003) - both very good depictions of the American Civil War, which was essentially the last real hoorah for the kinds of tactics that evolved in the 18th and early 19th centuries.
Pretty sparse pickings in some ways... I find documentaries are a better watch than movies for the period frankly. Just working my way through the 4 part Pen & Sword DVD series on the Battle of Waterloo. Presentation a bit amateurish, but that's OK because they know their stuff. Been a good watch!Man is the only animal that deals in that atrocity of atrocities, War. He is the only one that gathers his brethren about him and goes forth in cold blood and calm pulse to exterminate his kind. He is the only animal that for sordid wages will march out...and help to slaughter strangers of his own species who have done him no harm and with whom he has no quarrel. ..And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for "the universal brotherhood of man"-- with his mouth.
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Zulu? Is this the one with Michael Caine? Years ago, I watched a film I think was called Zulu Dawn.... the Zulus win the battle. I pretty sure it was the battle that took prior to the battle the Michael Caine's character fought in. Do I have the backwards?
Originally Posted by DeValiere
The Charge of the Light Brigade...eeee it was a hard watch. My brother in law recorded an ealier version of the movie that I thought was the later version. When I saw the name, Errol Flynn.... I could only handle about 6 minutes of dialogue...LOL
I am surprise British film makers haven't discovered John Churchill (Duke of Marlborough).... they could had explored both his military exploits but his diplomatic intrigue among the British royalty Originally Posted by DeValiere
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Originally Posted by PikeStance
By Jove! Yes... that Peter the Great mini series! I also watched it in my teens. Should I have admitted that?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090502/
I do believe it was reasonably good, but... it was a 1980's mini series so maybe I'm being a bit overly nostelgic! I suppose I could confess that I also have the North and South mini series. I know it was more soap opera than historical drama in many ways, but it got me interested in the American Civil War and led me onto the Ken Burns documentary series so... I have a soft spot for it. That said, I may just have to get that Peter the Great series and watch it again. He was a fascinating man.
No, you are correct - the Zuly Dawn movie, which I haven't seen in a long time, deals with the Battle of Isandlwana itslef, so precedes the events at Rorke's Drift as seen in Zulu.
The Zulu movie retells the events that took place at Rorke's Drift - one of the most well known episodes in British military history and also one of the most controversial. The Zulus had defeated the British at the Battle of Isandlwana and then fell on the nearby mission at Rorke's Drift later that same day. The movie does give a fair representation of what went on there, more or less. The problem with Rorke's Drift is not that it was an amazing feat of arms to hold off thousands of Zulu warriors fresh from their triumph at Isandlwana, but that it was used to effectively cover up and sideline what happened at Isandlwana. 13 VCs awarded (and some that should have been but never were) and the British Government made it into a monumentally heroic action (which it was). However, it neatly helped gloss over the massacre at Isandlwana and surplanted that news in all the papers etc. It was what we'd now call "spin" and of the worst kind. A very interesting battle nonetheless and I must admit I do love the movie, whether it is entirely historically accurate or not. It's Michael Caine after all.
And as for the Erol Flynn version of Charge of the Light Brigade, well... yes. Appallingy bad.Man is the only animal that deals in that atrocity of atrocities, War. He is the only one that gathers his brethren about him and goes forth in cold blood and calm pulse to exterminate his kind. He is the only animal that for sordid wages will march out...and help to slaughter strangers of his own species who have done him no harm and with whom he has no quarrel. ..And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for "the universal brotherhood of man"-- with his mouth.
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yeah the patriot sucks,especially didnt like the scene where british dragoons burned down a church full of civillians which NEVER happened,mind you mel does like brit/english bashing roles like `brave heart` and `gallipoli`-
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Yes, among other things the complete 'villainization' of Tarleton was so bad, they had changed his name in the movie. I am nost sure why.... most evil characters in Hollywood movies have English/ British accents. Originally Posted by johnswan
yeah the patriot sucks,especially didnt like the scene where british dragoons burned down a church full of civillians which NEVER happened,mind you mel does like brit/english bashing roles like `brave heart` and `gallipoli`-
barry ryn is good.
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Stick to DeValieres references. They are excellent. In addition I would recommend
Stanley Kubricks Barry Lyndon and Sergej Bondarchuks War and Peace to you.
You might also like to take a look here (its not a movie but a documentation about the Jena and Auerstedt Battle of 1806):
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how about this: Napoléon (TV mini-series 2002)
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Oooh... that looks good! Might have to give that a go! Originally Posted by hereIam
Man is the only animal that deals in that atrocity of atrocities, War. He is the only one that gathers his brethren about him and goes forth in cold blood and calm pulse to exterminate his kind. He is the only animal that for sordid wages will march out...and help to slaughter strangers of his own species who have done him no harm and with whom he has no quarrel. ..And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for "the universal brotherhood of man"-- with his mouth.
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Four Feathers, more of a love story than a good war flick, but it does have some good fight scenes. Master and Commander is a great naval flick from the era. The Man Who Would be King is one of my all time favorites! Sean Connery and Micheal Caine both at their height. Gives a good view of warfare in India with ghurkas and everything. =)
Sean Connery is my hero!Last edited by HauptmanT; March 01, 2012 at 09:36 PM.
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Originally Posted by HauptmanT
Yup, one of my favourites too! I caught "The Hill" on MGM a while back. Hadn't seen it many years, but a good watch. Sad that he's withdrawn from acting but he's earned a rest I suppose. 
Man is the only animal that deals in that atrocity of atrocities, War. He is the only one that gathers his brethren about him and goes forth in cold blood and calm pulse to exterminate his kind. He is the only animal that for sordid wages will march out...and help to slaughter strangers of his own species who have done him no harm and with whom he has no quarrel. ..And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for "the universal brotherhood of man"-- with his mouth.
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Hey,
Last of the Mohicans is a great film. They really did a great job with the sound and visual of the battles.
A great film about the American Revolution is Revolution with Al Pacino. It is known for its historical authenticity. They are a couple of good battle scenes as well as some good urban "unrest" scenes.
If I ever were to teach the American revolution this would film is one of the few films I would show in its entirety. The Patriot is a bad film all around. An overly sadistic British officer, the hero who is a bad amalgamation of three different people, unrealistic opinions (a man who had free black men working his modest plantation in South Carolina no less)....and yadda yadda yadda.
A little before this era, but I do like the Three Musketeers. I haven't seen the original, but I love the one made in 70s. The recent edition was unwatchable on my flight. I cannot tell you how disappointed I truly was. It was way too "The Mummy- like" for my liking especially compared to the move I loved as a kid.
Lastly, there was a mini- series made in the late 80s about Peter the Great (I think it was called Peter the Great). Its been awhile, but I do remember enjoying the movie as a teen. Maybe someone else on here would have a better memory of it. There isn't much out there, so I guess it wouldn't watching it yourself.
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No one's metioned "Waterloo"?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066549/
As a kid I remember being awestruck by the scene with the French Cavalry charging the British infantry squares.
Ah, here's the scene.
Your reality sir, is lies and balderdash, and I'm happy to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever!
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I did mention it in point of fact. Originally Posted by Good ole Reb
No one's metioned "Waterloo"?
As a kid I remember being awestruck by the scene with the French Cavalry charging the British infantry squares.
Ah, here's the scene.
Found the movie by turns good and bad - there are some scenes that did justice to the battle and others that fell far short. I think the problem for me with it was that I knew enough about what actually took place at Waterloo to shake my head and say "no, no... that's not right" too often. However, the same or worse could be said of the Sharpe series, and I loved that. So... meh.
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Man is the only animal that deals in that atrocity of atrocities, War. He is the only one that gathers his brethren about him and goes forth in cold blood and calm pulse to exterminate his kind. He is the only animal that for sordid wages will march out...and help to slaughter strangers of his own species who have done him no harm and with whom he has no quarrel. ..And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for "the universal brotherhood of man"-- with his mouth.
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Sorry that I missed your mention old boy! And yes not a perfect film but my memories of it are from my youth and to that young lad it was mesmerizing . Originally Posted by DeValiere
I did mention it in point of fact.
Found the movie by turns good and bad - there are some scenes that did justice to the battle and others that fell far short. I think the problem for me with it was that I knew enough about what actually took place at Waterloo to shake my head and say "no, no... that's not right" too often. However, the same or worse could be said of the Sharpe series, and I loved that. So... meh.
Your reality sir, is lies and balderdash, and I'm happy to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever!
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Yes, I'm afraid there are some movies from my youth that I've had fond memories of that have let me down a bit when I've come back to them later in life. I'm going to try and get hold of a few of the movies mentioned in this thread for just these reasons. Will be interesting to see how they do stand up! Originally Posted by Good ole Reb
Sorry that I missed your mention old boy! And yes not a perfect film but my memories of it are from my youth and to that young lad it was mesmerizing .
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Man is the only animal that deals in that atrocity of atrocities, War. He is the only one that gathers his brethren about him and goes forth in cold blood and calm pulse to exterminate his kind. He is the only animal that for sordid wages will march out...and help to slaughter strangers of his own species who have done him no harm and with whom he has no quarrel. ..And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for "the universal brotherhood of man"-- with his mouth.
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This. Waterloo is a fantastic film - definitely worth a watch or two. Reportedly, its battle scenes served as the inspiration for those in the Lord of the Rings movies. Originally Posted by Good ole Reb
No one's metioned "Waterloo"?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066549/
As a kid I remember being awestruck by the scene with the French Cavalry charging the British infantry squares.
Ah, here's the scene.
