How to properly spawn heretic and generals..(solved)

**RollingWave** · February 29, 2012, 11:34 AM

Ok.. I'm writing a script to spawn a very strong heretic and then later on a rebel general.. but I have ran into several issue.

1.my spawn heretic script doesn't seem to work. here it is..

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType slave
and I_TurnNumber = 1

if I_SettlementOwner Marrakesh = moors
and I_SettlementOwner Fes = moors
spawn_character slave Amghar ibn_Tumart, heretic, age 40, x 37, y 94

set_event_counter ibn_tumart 1
add_money slave 10000
end_if

if I_EventCounter ibn_tumart = 1
historic_event ibn_Tumart
console_command give_trait Amghar ibn_Tumart NaturalHereticSkill 3
console_command give_trait Amghar ibn_Tumart HereticPersuasion 3
console_command give_trait Amghar ibn_Tumart GrowingConviction 3
end_if

terminate_monitor
end_monitor

I'm not sure what's the problem here, but after I tried this it always crash when it's suppose to spawn without giving the reason in system log. the tile is not the issue, i've checked several times and it's a prefectly acceptable position .

quesiton 2

I want to spawn a rebel islamic general, but my first attempts saw the general spawning as a catholic dude, I'm guessing it's because rebels faction by default is southern_european. so i tweaked it around a bit... would this work? precisely the lines I put in bold

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType slave
and I_TurnNumber = 3

if I_SettlementOwner Marrakesh = moors
and I_SettlementOwner Cordoba = moors
and I_SettlementOwner Fes = moors
and I_NumberOfSettlements moors > 5
spawn_army
faction slave sub_faction moors
character Abd al-Mu'min, named character, age 30, x 17, y 74, direction N, battle_model Eastern_General, portrait saladin, label Abd_Almohad
traits GoodCommander 4 , BattleDread 3 , StrategyDread 2 , PublicFaith 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 2
unit ME Bodyguard exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Berber Spearmen exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Berber Spearmen exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Cavalry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Cavalry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Berber Infantry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Berber Infantry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit ME Spear Militia exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit ME Spear Militia exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Cavalry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Shaykh Cavalry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Berber Infantry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Shaykh exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Archers exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Archers exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Archers exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Archers exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit ME Catapult exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
end
set_event_counter almohad_rebel 1
add_money slave 10000
end_if

if I_EventCounter almohad_rebel = 1
historic_event almohad_uprising
end_if

terminate_monitor
end_monitor

I had tried to use strat_model line in the same way as battle_model but that appears to not work, (script error is given) . this setup right now don't have error but I'm not sure if it'll actually work.

thx for the help

**Lazy** · February 29, 2012, 02:40 PM

I bet its because the name... there are these brackets missing!

Lazy the Great => crash
"Lazy the Great" => works

Additionally try not not use "if" if you do not really need it because not every event is able to use it...

Code:

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType slave
    and I_TurnNumber = 1
    and I_SettlementOwner Marrakesh = moors ( at the first turn the moors own this town always... so its not needed )
    and I_SettlementOwner Fes = moors ( this is not needed too )

        spawn_character slave "Amghar ibn_Tumart", heretic, age 40, x 37, y 94
        console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" NaturalHereticSkill 3
        console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" HereticPersuasion 3
        console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" GrowingConviction 3
    
        set_event_counter ibn_tumart 1 ( delete this line if not really needed )
        add_money slave 10000 ( slaves do not have a money account I think so I bet this can be deleted)
        historic_event ibn_Tumart

    terminate_monitor
end_monitor

Sorry for bad english... I am "a little" drunk

I wuold try to look at the second question too but its too much... I cant read it right now...

**RollingWave** · February 29, 2012, 08:12 PM

Ahhh, great! thx man

**RollingWave** · February 29, 2012, 10:45 PM

hmmm, still seem to have problem.... the comp crash when I get to the turns right now and the heretic simply doesn't spawn.

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType slave
and I_TurnNumber = 2

if I_SettlementOwner Marrakesh = moors
and I_SettlementOwner Fes = moors
spawn_character slave "Amghar ibn_Tumart", heretic, age 40, x 37, y 94

console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" NaturalHereticSkill 3
console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" HereticPersuasion 3
console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" GrowingConviction 3
historic_event ibn_tumart

end_if

terminate_monitor
end_monitor

is this right? note I'm not actually going to set it at turn 1 , i'm doing this to test if it works so that's why I have the if conditions

**Withwnar** · March 01, 2012, 01:13 AM

Do you have an entry for that historic event in historic_events.txt? That causes error-less CTDs.

How do you know that he isn't spawning if it's crashing? I would have thought that you wouldn't have time to see if he spawns or not before the crash.

**Vegas_Bear** · March 01, 2012, 04:10 AM

I'd try to start off w/ the basics and then build off of that -

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType slave
and I_TurnNumber = 1

spawn_character slave, Amghar ibn_Tumart, heretic, age 40, x 37, y 94
console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" NaturalHereticSkill 3
console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" HereticPersuasion 3
console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" GrowingConviction 3

terminate_monitor
end_monitor

Start w/ this and then add the historic event and regions owned by the moors. Is Amghar ibn_Tumart listed for the slave faction in the descr_names.txt?

VB

**Vegas_Bear** · March 01, 2012, 04:18 AM

For your spawned General, try this -

declare_counter almohad_rebel
set_counter almohad_rebel 0

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType slave
and I_TurnNumber = 3

if I_SettlementOwner Marrakesh = moors
and I_SettlementOwner Cordoba = moors
and I_SettlementOwner Fes = moors
and I_NumberOfSettlements moors > 5
spawn_army
faction slave, sub_faction moors
character Abd al-Mu'min, named character, age 30, x 17, y 74, direction N, battle_model Eastern_General, portrait saladin, label Abd_Almohad
traits GoodCommander 4 , BattleDread 3 , StrategyDread 2 , PublicFaith 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 2
unit ME Bodyguard exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Berber Spearmen exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Berber Spearmen exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Cavalry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Cavalry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Berber Infantry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Berber Infantry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit ME Spear Militia exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit ME Spear Militia exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Cavalry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Shaykh Cavalry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Berber Infantry exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Shaykh exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Archers exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Archers exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Archers exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Desert Archers exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit ME Catapult exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
end
set_event_counter almohad_rebel 1
add_money slave 10000
end_if

if I_EventCounter almohad_rebel = 1
historic_event almohad_uprising
end_if

terminate_monitor
end_monitor

You were missing a comma in the sub-faction line.

VB

**RollingWave** · March 01, 2012, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by Vegas_Bear

For your spawned General, try this -

You were missing a comma in the sub-faction line.

VB

I tried your suggestion, but i'm still getting this

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**Withwnar** · March 01, 2012, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by RollingWave

I had tried to use strat_model line in the same way as battle_model but that appears to not work, (script error is given) .

For strat models you need to use descr_model_strat and descr_character, then set the appropriate Level via a trait/ancillary.

**RollingWave** · March 01, 2012, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Withwnar

For strat models you need to use descr_model_strat and descr_character, then set the appropriate Level via a trait/ancillary.

ok I got the heretic thing working now, here's the final stuff I did

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType slave
and I_TurnNumber = 39

if I_SettlementOwner Marrakesh = moors
and I_SettlementOwner Fes = moors

historic_event ibn_tumart
set_event_counter new_prophet 1
end_if

if I_EventCounter new_prophet = 1
spawn_character slave Amghar ibn_Tumart, heretic, age 40, x 20, y 74
console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" GrowingConviction 1
console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" NaturalHereticSkill 3
console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" HereticPersuasion 3
console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" StrongFaith 4
console_command add_money moors -2000
end_if

terminate_monitor
end_monitor

Now on to tackling the strat model...

**Withwnar** · March 01, 2012, 05:53 AM

If this is the only use of that new_prophet counter then it is redundant. You may as well do this...

Code:

if I_SettlementOwner Marrakesh = moors
 and I_SettlementOwner Fes = moors

 historic_event ibn_tumart
 set_event_counter new_prophet 1
 end_if

 if I_EventCounter new_prophet = 1
 spawn_character slave Amghar ibn_Tumart, heretic, age 40, x 20, y 74
 console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" GrowingConviction 1
 console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" NaturalHereticSkill 3
 console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" HereticPersuasion 3
 console_command give_trait "Amghar ibn_Tumart" StrongFaith 4 
 console_command add_money moors -2000
 end_if

But I can't see why this works and your previous one doesn't. Are you sure that is all that you changed? e.g. It wasn't a missing historic_events.txt entry?

**RollingWave** · March 02, 2012, 12:03 AM

Any other suggestions? on how to make the rebel general strat model to actually look middle eastern? the subfaction or sub_faction tag didn't seem to help :/

**Resurrection** · March 02, 2012, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by RollingWave

Any other suggestions? on how to make the rebel general strat model to actually look middle eastern? the subfaction or sub_faction tag didn't seem to help :/

sub_faction tag does not work in CS spawn commands. Assuming you are using Kingdoms you will need to create extra general model entry in descr_character.txt, then the trait with effect Level 1 (assuming your model entry is second in descr_character.txt) and give your character this trait. It will change his model to the desired one.

However note that as sub_faction does not work traits and ancillaries don't work either so you will have to do it via console_command give_trait.

**RollingWave** · March 02, 2012, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by Resurrection

sub_faction tag does not work in CS spawn commands. Assuming you are using Kingdoms you will need to create extra general model entry in descr_character.txt, then the trait with effect Level 1 (assuming your model entry is second in descr_character.txt) and give your character this trait. It will change his model to the desired one.

However note that as sub_faction does not work traits and ancillaries don't work either so you will have to do it via console_command give_trait.

Aha! that did it! thanks a ton!

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