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    I thought this was a good read and wanted to share it with others

    ON SHEEP, WOLVES, AND SHEEPDOGS

    Jill Edwards is a junior math major at the University of Washington. In brief, Edwards, a member of the UW student senate, opposed a memorial to UW grad "Pappy" Boyington. Boyington was a U.S. Marine aviator who earned the Medal of Honor in World War II. Edwards said that she didn't think it was appropriate to honor a person who killed other people. She also said that a member of the Marine Corps was NOT an example of the sort of person the University of Washington wanted to produce.

    Gen. Dula's letter to the University of Washington student senate leader:

    To: Edwards, Jill (student, UW)
    Subject: Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs

    Miss Edwards, I read of your 'student activity' regarding the proposed memorial to Col Greg Boyington, USMC and a Medal of Honor winner. I suspect you will receive a bellyful of angry e-mails from conservative folks like me. You may be too young to appreciate fully the sacrifices of generations of servicemen and servicewomen on whose shoulders you and your fellow students stand. I forgive you for the untutored ways of youth and your naiveté.

    It may be that you are, simply, a sheep. There's no dishonor in being a sheep - - as long as you know and accept what you are. Please take a couple of minutes to read the following. And be grateful for the thousands - - millions - - of American sheepdogs who permit you the freedom to express even bad ideas.

    Brett Dula
    Sheepdog, retired
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    ON SHEEP, WOLVES, AND SHEEPDOGS

    By LTC(RET) Dave Grossman, RANGER,
    Ph.D., author of "On Killing."

    Honor never grows old, and honor rejoices the heart of age. It does so because honor is, finally, about defending those noble and worthy things that deserve defending, even if it comes at a high cost. In our time, that may mean social disapproval, public scorn, hardship, persecution, or as always, even death itself. The question remains: What is worth defending? What is worth dying for? What is worth living for? - William J. Bennett - in a lecture to the United States Naval Academy November 24, 1997

    One Vietnam veteran, an old retired colonel, once said this to me: "Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle, productive creatures who can only hurt one another by accident." This is true. Remember, the murder rate is six per 100,000 per year, and the aggravated assault rate is four per 1,000 per year. What this means is that the vast majority of Americans are not inclined to hurt one another.

    Some estimates say that two million Americans are victims of violent crimes every year, a tragic, staggering number, perhaps an all-time record rate of violent crime. But there are almost 300 million Americans, which means that the odds of being a victim of violent crime is considerably less than one in a hundred on any given year. Furthermore, since many violent crimes are committed by repeat offenders, the actual number of violent citizens is considerably less than two million.

    Thus there is a paradox, and we must grasp both ends of the situation: We may well be in the most violent times in history, but violence is still remarkably rare. This is because most citizens are kind, decent people who are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme provocation. They are sheep.

    I mean nothing negative by calling them sheep. To me, it is like the pretty, blue robin's egg. Inside it is soft and gooey but someday it will grow into something wonderful. But the egg cannot survive without its hard blue shell.

    Police officers, soldiers, and other warriors are like that shell, and someday the civilization they protect will grow into something wonderful. For now, though, they need warriors to protect them from the predators.

    "Then there are the wolves," the old war veteran said, "and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy." Do you believe there are wolves out there who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in denial.

    "Then there are sheepdogs," he went on, "and I'm a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf."

    If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen, a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath, a wolf.

    But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? What do you have then? A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed

    Let me expand on this old soldier's excellent model of the sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs. We know that the sheep live in denial, that is what makes them sheep. They do not want to believe that there is evil in the world. They can accept the fact that fires can happen, which is why they want fire extinguishers, fire sprinklers, fire alarms and fire exits throughout their kids' schools.

    But many of them are outraged at the idea of putting an armed police officer in their kid's school. Our children are thousands of times more likely to be killed or seriously injured by school violence than fire, but the sheep's only response to the possibility of violence is denial. The idea of someone coming to kill or harm their child is just too hard, and so they chose the path of denial.

    The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheep dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.

    Still, the sheepdog disturbs the sheep. He is a constant reminder that there are wolves in the land. They would prefer that he didn't tell them where to go, or give them traffic tickets, or stand at the ready in our airports, in camouflage fatigues, holding an M-16. The sheep would much rather have the sheepdog cash in his fangs, spray paint himself white, and go, "Baa." Until the wolf shows up. Then the entire flock tries desperately to hide behind one lonely sheepdog.

    The students, the victims, at Columbine High School were big, tough high school students, and under ordinary circumstances they would not have had the time of day for a police officer. They were not bad kids; they just had nothing to say to a cop. When the school was under attack, however, and SWAT teams were clearing the rooms and hallways, the officers had to physically peel those clinging, sobbing kids off of them. This is how the little lambs feel about their sheepdog when the wolf is at the door.

    Look at what happened after September 11, 2001 when the wolf pounded hard on the door. Remember how America, more than ever before, felt differently about their law enforcement officers and military personnel? Remember how many times you heard the word hero?

    Understand that there is nothing morally superior about being a sheepdog; it is just what you choose to be. Also understand that a sheepdog is a funny critter: He is always sniffing around out on the perimeter, checking the breeze, barking at things that go bump in the night, and yearning for a righteous battle. That is, the young sheepdogs yearn for a righteous battle. The old sheepdogs are a little older and wiser, but they move to the sound of the guns when needed, right along with the young ones.

    Here is how the sheep and the sheepdog think differently. The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day. After the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in America said, "Thank God I wasn't on one of those planes." The sheepdogs, the warriors, said, "Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes. Maybe I could have made a difference." When you are truly transformed into a warrior and have truly invested yourself into warrior hood, you want to be there. You want to be able to make a difference.

    There is nothing morally superior about the sheepdog, the warrior, but he does have one real advantage. Only one. And that is that he is able to survive and thrive in an environment that destroys 98 percent of the population.

    There was research conducted a few years ago with individuals convicted of violent crimes. These cons were in prison for serious, predatory crimes of violence: assaults, murders and killing law enforcement officers. The vast majority said that they specifically targeted victims by body language: Slumped walk, passive behavior and lack of awareness. They chose their victims like big cats do in Africa, when they select one out of the herd that is least able to protect itself.

    Some people may be destined to be sheep and others might be genetically primed to be wolves or sheepdogs. But I believe that most people can choose which one they want to be, and I'm proud to say that more and more Americans are choosing to become sheepdogs.

    Seven months after the attack on September 11, 2001, Todd Beamer was honored in his hometown of Cranbury, New Jersey. Todd, as you recall, was the man on Flight 93 over Pennsylvania who called on his cell phone to alert an operator from United Airlines about the hijacking. When he learned of the other three passenger planes that had been used as weapons, Todd dropped his phone and uttered the words, "Let's roll," which authorities believe was a signal to the other passengers to confront the terrorist hijackers. In one hour, a transformation occurred among the passengers - athletes, business people and parents. -- from sheep to sheepdogs and together they fought the wolves, ultimately saving an unknown number of lives on the ground.

    There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. - Edmund Burke

    Here is the point I like to emphasize, especially to the thousands of police officers and soldiers I speak to each year. In nature the sheep, real sheep, are born as sheep. Sheepdogs are born that way, and so are wolves. They didn't have a choice. But you are not a critter. As a human being, you can be whatever you want to be. It is a conscious, moral decision.

    If you want to be a sheep, then you can be a sheep and that is okay, but you must understand the price you pay. When the wolf comes, you and your loved ones are going to die if there is not a sheepdog there to protect you. If you want to be a wolf, you can be one, but the sheepdogs are going to hunt you down and you will never have rest, safety, trust or love. But if you want to be a sheepdog and walk the warrior's path, then you must make a conscious and moral decision every day to dedicate, equip and prepare yourself to thrive in that toxic, corrosive moment when the wolf comes knocking at the door.

    For example, many officers carry their weapons in church. They are well concealed in ankle holsters, shoulder holsters or inside-the-belt holsters tucked into the small of their backs. Anytime you go to some form of religious service, there is a very good chance that a police officer in your congregation is carrying. You will never know if there is such an individual in your place of worship, until the wolf appears to massacre you and your loved ones.

    I was training a group of police officers in Texas, and during the break, one officer asked his friend if he carried his weapon in church. The other cop replied, "I will never be caught without my gun in church." I asked why he felt so strongly about this, and he told me about a cop he knew who was at a church massacre in Ft. Worth, Texas in 1999. In that incident, a mentally deranged individual came into the church and opened fire, gunning down fourteen people. He said that officer believed he could have saved every life that day if he had been carrying his gun. His own son was shot, and all he could do was throw himself on the boy's body and wait to die. That cop looked me in the eye and said, "Do you have any idea how hard it would be to live with yourself after that?"

    Some individuals would be horrified if they knew this police officer was carrying a weapon in church. They might call him paranoid and would probably scorn him. Yet these same individuals would be enraged and would call for "heads to roll" if they found out that the airbags in their cars were defective, or that the fire extinguisher and fire sprinklers in their kids' school did not work. They can accept the fact that fires and traffic accidents can happen and that there must be safeguards against them.

    Their only response to the wolf, though, is denial, and all too often their response to the sheepdog is scorn and disdain. But the sheepdog quietly asks himself, "Do you have any idea how hard it would be to live with yourself if your loved ones were attacked and killed, and you had to stand there helplessly because you were unprepared for that day?"

    It is denial that turns people into sheep. Sheep are psychologically destroyed by combat because their only defense is denial, which is counterproductive and destructive, resulting in fear, helplessness and horror when the wolf shows up.

    Denial kills you twice. It kills you once, at your moment of truth when you are not physically prepared: you didn't bring your gun, you didn't train. Your only defense was wishful thinking. Hope is not a strategy. Denial kills you a second time because even if you do physically survive, you are psychologically shattered by your fear, helplessness and horror at your moment of truth.

    Gavin de Becker puts it like this in Fear Less, his superb post-9/11 book, which should be required reading for anyone trying to come to terms with our current world situation: "...denial can be seductive, but it has an insidious side effect. For all the peace of mind deniers think they get by saying it isn't so, the fall they take when faced with new violence is all the more unsettling."

    Denial is a save-now-pay-later scheme, a contract written entirely in small print, for in the long run, the denying person knows the truth on some level. And so the warrior must strive to confront denial in all aspects of his life, and prepare himself for the day when evil comes.

    If you are warrior who is legally authorized to carry a weapon and you step outside without that weapon, then you become a sheep, pretending that the bad man will not come today. No one can be "on" 24/7, for a lifetime. Everyone needs down time. But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself..."Baa."

    This business of being a sheep or a sheep dog is not a yes-no dichotomy. It is not an all-or-nothing, either-or choice. It is a matter of degrees, a continuum. On one end is an abject, head-in-the-sand-sheep and on the other end is the ultimate warrior. Few people exist completely on one end or the other.

    Most of us live somewhere in between. Since 9-11 almost everyone in America took a step up that continuum, away from denial. The sheep took a few steps toward accepting and appreciating their warriors, and the warriors started taking their job more seriously. The degree to which you move up that continuum, away from sheephood and denial, is the degree to which you and your loved ones will survive, physically and psychologically at your moment of truth.

    "If It Weren't For The United States Military"
    "There Would Be NO United States of America"



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    Great Essay, The student rep or whatever she was sounds like an airhead.
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    good read

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    Charming. Moronic - amusingly so, and hence charming. I'm sure mad army officers will REALLY sway civilian minds behind them by calling them all sheep and going to great lengths to patronisingly explain their inferiority. Serious home goal for the team there, Colonel Grossman and General Dula, you half-wits.
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    Simple worldview for simple people.

    You will never know if there is such an individual in your place of worship, until the wolf appears to massacre you and your loved ones.
    Super.

    If you disagree, you must be a sheep.

    Often, wolves are sheepdogs gone bad. Ever wondered what the separation of power is for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PacSubCom
    Simple worldview for simple people.



    Super.

    If you disagree, you must be a sheep.
    Indeed, this article is full of empty rhetorics, "us vs. them", black and white, playing to people's fears and denigration of the normal citizen. I mean sheep???. Poor, fluffy, little sheep, see them protesting about something they (should) know nothing of.

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    It's the guardian syndrome: it has, always has been, and always will be. Those people- generally government, feudal overlords, or gangsters- who confer protection upon the 'sheep' tend to live by a fairly generic set of rules, no matter the era: shun trading, exert prowess, be odedient and disciplined, adhere to tradition, respect hierarchy, be loyal, take vengeance, deceive for the sake of the task, make rich use of leisure, be ostentatious, dispense largesse, be exclusive, show fortitude, be fatalistic, treasure honor. [Jane Jacobs, 'Systems of Survival']

    Guys, the whole 'sheep/sheepdog' thing is OBVIOUSLY A METAPHOR, and isn't meant to insult the common man.

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    Talk about a seriously simplified viewpoint. As if being a soldier or policemen automatically bestows some sort of enhanced "honour" into people.
    As the people of Haditha recently realised, sometimes the wolf wears the sheepdog's clothes.

    I have a lot of respect for people who endanger their lives for what they believe in, and to protect the lives of others. But just because they do that it does not make them superior to us "Sheep".

    This growing pseudo-militarism in American society is troubling. Coupled with the growth in Nationalism (sorry, Patriotism....) its a potentially dangerous mix.
    Not my problem though.. i dont live there. Good job you yanks dont have a massive military, isnt it?
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    He could have called them cows, oxen, pigs, choose your farm animal the moral stays the same. There are bad people in the world, and there are people there to try to stop the bad people and then there are the regular people that hate both because to them they both infringe on their doing whatever they want. Many don't realise that without the good people than the bad people would hurt them (yes it is simplistic, but sometimes it is).
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    And of course sometimes those who seem to be the good poeple... really aren't. A dictatorship cannot stand up without the army, and an army can commit atrocities. Are you telling me everyone in Iraq is a "bad person"? Or even that we are in Iraq in defence? Because otherwise you need to accept that among the supposedly good people there are bad people.

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    No rather, there are sometimes bad people that pretend to be good people, and good people that look like bad people and regular people that look like both. But in reality there are people who are good who try to stop people who are bad no matter how they look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keystone Soldier
    No rather, there are sometimes bad people that pretend to be good people, and good people that look like bad people and regular people that look like both. But in reality there are people who are good who try to stop people who are bad no matter how they look.
    Only in world where good and bad are set in stone. But in real world they are not. Nobody considers themselves "bad" they ALWAYS have a "good" justification for their actions. Usually stopping "bad" people.

    Hitler thought he and his actions were "good". They were necessity to preserve and raise European civilization and "right" way of life. Specially against those disgusting bolshevists. He saw himself as guardian (sheepdog) of European culture.

    Others saw him as wolf.

    Sheepdog or wolf. Both are the same. It just depends on which end of the teeth you are standing in.


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    What a load of dreary nonsense. The world is NEVER simple like that and there is absolutely nothing admirable or virtuous in taking refuge in being a 'simple person' with 'simple values' - all you are admitting then is that you deny responsibility for the consequences of your actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cluny the Scourge
    What a load of dreary nonsense. The world is NEVER simple like that and there is absolutely nothing admirable or virtuous in taking refuge in being a 'simple person' with 'simple values' - all you are admitting then is that you deny responsibility for the consequences of your actions.
    It is equally simplistic to be so absolutely dismissive of others. People, at least most people, do like to live by simple rules and simple values...they give life meaning in a way that the convoluted reasoning of sophists can't.


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    some sheepdogs are ex-wolves. who had to become sheepdogs to avoid going to jail. politicians are sheperds who control both though...give the dog his treat, slaughter some sheep once in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akanoez
    some sheepdogs are ex-wolves. who had to become sheepdogs to avoid going to jail. politicians are sheperds who control both though...give the dog his treat, slaughter some sheep once in a while.
    Sheepdog and wolf are ONE AND SAME! It is like taking a car and putting on one side tag "vehicle" and another "transport". Both are true for one and same item at all times. So there are no ex-wolves. There are only wolves.


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    Decent read, but the guy was definetly laying it on a bit thick.

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    Let's create the world that does not need sheepdogs.

    And let's not forget "sheepdogs" are sheeps with stick-on fangs.

    Otherwise ok read, if somewhat too patriotic for my taste.

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    It was simplistic but to be a short essay or long letter in this case it would have to be simple otherwise you would have a good size novel.
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    A touching letter but perhaps more than a little antagonistic to the recipient. It is also full of the self righteousness of knowing good from bad of right from wrong, principles which often get distorted in times of warfare and indeed create the conditions for it to thrive.

    My own views on warfare is that it should and must be avoided wherever and whenever possible until a rubicon is reached which cannot be crossed and then "Let loose the dogs of war" in all their fury until the final battle is won, as there is nothing fine, decent or honourable about killing someone else.

    Very few drafted soldiers go into battle on some moral crusade, most just want to get home alive to their loved ones. Fewer still expect a memorial if they should fall. Even so a memorial to someone who paid the ultimate sacrifice is a small thing indeed for a generation who as a cosequence do not know the true horrors of what war is and may dare I say explain both your views and those of Miss Edwards. I suspect Miss Edwards was trying to make a point about present conflicts rather than serve to discredit the memory of Marine "Pappy" Boyington. Pacifists should I think confine their objections to acts violence and not memorials.

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