Sub-mod suggestions? New TATW Player.

**zorphon** · February 23, 2012, 05:30 PM

Hey all.

So I was getting into a HE game with TATW and Baron Samedi's Compilation and what-not, but hearing all the crash reports and instability of Baron Samedi's stuff and all the scripts that butt-heads, I decided to reinstall TATW fresh as Vanilla 3.1.

That being said, what are some sub-mods that are suggested to improve the game that are stable?

Or, should I not get any sub-mods at all?

Thanks in advance all.

**Riverknight** · February 23, 2012, 05:43 PM

Barons is stable for me... maybe you shoul'd re-install. MOS in not out for 3.1 I believe soo mayby FROGS. Also known as Forgotten Realms of Gatherd Sub mods!

**zorphon** · February 23, 2012, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Kings of Arnor

Barons is stable for me... maybe you shoul'd re-install. MOS in not out for 3.1 I believe soo mayby FROGS. Also known as Forgotten Realms of Gatherd Sub mods!

The last 40 pages of the Baron's thread is all bug reports, and I literally just asked a few people in Baron's thread and they said around turn 100-200 it crashes. Besides, I'd rather just have a play-experience that won't be interrupted by impending CTD's.

**Riverknight** · February 25, 2012, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by zorphon

The last 40 pages of the Baron's thread is all bug reports, and I literally just asked a few people in Baron's thread and they said around turn 100-200 it crashes. Besides, I'd rather just have a play-experience that won't be interrupted by impending CTD's.

Ugh, I guess I am special? Or maybe I just have not been playing enough...

**zorphon** · February 25, 2012, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Kings of Arnor

Ugh, I guess I am special? Or maybe I just have not been playing enough...

hehe. I'll try out BSC again and cross my fingers!

**lolIsuck** · February 23, 2012, 07:09 PM

Baron's, FROGS and PCP are the only ones updated for 3.1 I think so one of them

.

**k/t** · February 23, 2012, 11:11 PM

RR/RC.

Dark Lord Revan and Nemesis_GR both made versions, I think.

**Trailhog250** · February 23, 2012, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by k/t

RR/RC.

Dark Lord Revan and Nemesis_GR both made versions, I think.

It might be worth pointing out that's included in MOS, but then again it's not out yet

**Nemesis_GR** · February 24, 2012, 01:08 AM

I suggest G5s compilation and RC.Thats how i play.hf

**zorphon** · February 24, 2012, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Nemesis_GR

I suggest G5s compilation and RC.Thats how i play.hf

Excuse my noobiness, but what exactly does RC do? I'm reading the thread (yours), but not entirely clear what it exactly does.

**Dutch-Balrog** · February 24, 2012, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by zorphon

Excuse my noobiness, but what exactly does RC do? I'm reading the thread (yours), but not entirely clear what it exactly does.

RC stands for 'Real Combat', it makes combat way mroe realistic and strategic. It improves the battles alot.

**k/t** · February 24, 2012, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by Trailhog250

It might be worth pointing out that's included in MOS, but then again it's not out yet

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

**Trailhog250** · February 24, 2012, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by k/t

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

I wish I could rep you for that

(but I must spread it around some more first

)

RC truly is a gem for M2TW though imo, in any (sub)mod compilation(s). Helps bring out the life in every unit better. Makes the battles more interesting and from my testing helps balance auto-resolve out so it doesn't seem to favor evil factions and numbers as much

**k/t** · February 25, 2012, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by k/t

RR/RC.

Dark Lord Revan and Nemesis_GR both made versions, I think.

**k/t** · February 24, 2012, 02:21 PM

Heavily armoured units are favoured by auto-resolve, and a lot of the orc units have 0 or 1 secondary HP.

**Bastard King** · February 24, 2012, 05:20 PM

To be more specific, it changes the unit stats/costs/recruitment to make it more balanced.

**Old War Horse** · February 24, 2012, 06:14 PM

il duce's expanded map is pretty good. it's the same map just with more settlements and smaller territories. pretty balanced, very few bugs, and i have yet to have a ctd

and it's updated to 3.1

**Lazy** · February 25, 2012, 10:17 AM

TATW and submods is a pain in the ass right now!
As long as there is no SubModManager ( like in SS ) included you must check out the modding forums and do it by yourself!

The only other possibility is to take a massive Submod Collection that changes "thousends" of things and looks like it has been made in a big copy&paste orgy ( Barons one is a good example ) and therefor is "not perfect"!
Edit: This does not mean all compilations here are

... the ones I consider as "good" are beta versions and will need some months until normal players can play them ( PCP/MOS )!

Thats my dillema... every of these compilations changes something I dislike and my only possibility is to edit them and to "steal" parts and include them by myself...
that´s my ( useless ) suggestion to you

**zorphon** · February 25, 2012, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Lazy

TATW and submods is a pain in the ass right now!
As long as there is no SubModManager ( like in SS ) included you must check out the modding forums and do it by yourself!

The only other possibility is to take a massive Submod Collection that changes "thousends" of things and looks like it has been made in a big copy&paste orgy ( Barons one is a good example ) and therefor is "not perfect"!
Edit: This does not mean all compilations here are

... the ones I consider as "good" are beta versions and will need some months until normal players can play them ( PCP/MOS )!

Thats my dillema... every of these compilations changes something I dislike and my only possibility is to edit them and to "steal" parts and include them by myself...
that´s my ( useless ) suggestion to you

Haha I understand what you're saying perfectly.

Essentially, for the time being Vanilla TATW 3.1 is the best stable experience.