Is Chess art?

hehe we know several arts like dancing, painting, building, music .. etc... what about chess?

In my oppinion chess is art, but i know plenty of people who would say chess is not an art.
i would say chess is as much art as strategy it is not visible, but it is there and there are many secrets behind victory or defeat.
what do you think?

It is an art if you are good at it.

Yes, I think it is art, however, in no sense of the word "art".

No, its not art. What were you thinking? Its a mind game.

EDIT: Can I make sure you all know the difference between "art" and "an art".

As with most art, it is debatable. That is why I said it is an art. Anything can be considered art. Even the theme of the forum.

Its a category of "art" i suppose, e.g the the art of painting, the art of dance, the art of music, the art of strategy, the art of chess, etc

Chess is a representation of war and war is often refered to in an artistic sense, Sun Tzu even wrote a book about it, although that was more of a philosophy so maybe the question should be can you apply the philisophical aspects of art to chess?,or is chess just to black and white?, well i think yes it is an Art, and for the pedantic a great stratergy when executed can be a work of Art.

difference between "art" and "an art" ???

can you explain that to me please?

This part of the forums is for art. Art is something like this -



An art is different. An art can be anything. Being yourself can be an art. Any virtue is basically an art.

Originally Posted by Shyam Popat

This part of the forums is for art. Art is something like this -

I think youre just thinking of art as in short for artistic. That painting is artistically done, which makes it a form of the art of painting

An art makes it art. But, since Art is so personal and people have firm stances on what is and is not art. Anything can be considered art. Some people look at it some way and some people look at the way you are. Only paintings are art while other things are not.

OK, OK, we can argue all we like about what is art and what isn't art.

IMHO, the arts consist of a painting, a movie, a story. Not a sport, by all means.

ohhh ok i see what you mean =) thanks Shyam Popat.
in that case i think chess is a art and an art =) ... but i am not an artist =(
(or just maybe a not a good one at least... lol)

an art is pretty much just the same as a discipline. Pretty much anyone can reach such a high level in whatever they do to be termed an 'artist'.

Think of the term "Con Artist". Such a name implies that the skills required to decieve can be honed to the extent of being considered an art.

IMHO, the arts consist of a painting, a movie, a story. Not a sport, by all means.

But chess is not a sport, it is a game. We play as well call Monopoly a sport.

In the years that I played it, chess stirred my thoughts as much as a film, painting or song would. There are few who can reach the level of Kasparov, as there are few composers who match the emotional intensity of Tchaikovsky.

Originally Posted by Octavian

We play as well call Monopoly a sport.

Play as well; fantastic

But anyway: The game of chess itself isn't really art. As Tolstoy outlined, for 'art' to be art, there must be a specific emotional link that the artist creates between himself and the audience. However, it could be argued that a game of chess 'orchestrated' by a master player is art, as he is in fact putting on a show of his skills to an audience.

also football is just a game... but it is a sport also,
maybe chess isnt a phisical sport, but i think it is a sport also... it requires from a player to fight for victory, to judge and move the best movest that can assure him victory, also a player has to obay rules .... it isnt a team sport and it doesnt require phisical strenght from a player, but it is played in a sports spirit and that is enough for me to be a sport.
So actually Chess is actually as much an art as making music and as mush sport as any other sport.
- instead of using your muscles you have to use brain.

that is actually a good argument Turnus.