Human right watch urge Germany to end sex offender castration

[hellheaven1987]

Europe's top human rights watchdog, the Council of Europe, has urged Germany to end the practice of surgically castrating sex offenders.

The council's anti-torture committee said such voluntary treatment, albeit rare in Germany, was "degrading".

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Interesting, I wonder how they castrate the offender?

[Goudvinger]

They bite them off!

[Derbiean]

For human rights to apply you must be a human being.

Sex offenders are not, they are dangerous insects who need stepping on.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

For human rights to apply you must be a human being.

Sex offenders are not, they are dangerous insects who need stepping on.

because being drunk and pissing in a town corner is as bad as hitler.

But apart from that, denying the humanity of anyone, I don't care what they've done, is as bad as any crime they have commited. Have you no empathy at all?

[Heinz Guderian]

Its voluntary. When they ask for castration then i think they are asking to be re-submitted into the human race.

Its the only way to be sure.

[Denny Crane!]

Its voluntary. When they ask for castration then i think they are asking to be re-submitted into the human race.

Its the only way to be sure.

Sorry you think it works?

[Heinz Guderian]

Sorry you think it works?

It cant do any harm to try

[Denny Crane!]

It cant do any harm to try

Spend tax money and create a false snse of security for something that doesnt work.

Hey ive got a plan to secure the solution to all societies ills, i mean it does involve giving me a crapload of money and there is no evidence that it works but....well im seeing nothing but silver lining.

[Mangalore]

Spend tax money and create a false snse of security for something that doesnt work.

Since the alternative is lifetime prison the tax money issue isn't really there and the security aspect is only one of increasing security not replacing an existing measure.

[xcorps]

Sorry you think it works?

Chemical castration does work. When used as a mandatory precondition of parole or probation chemical castration decreases the occurrence of repeat offenses from 75% to 2% in pedophiles. A Eurpean study showed recidivism rates fall from 65% to 6% (again, pedophiles.)

[SLN445]

Chemical castration does work. When used as a mandatory precondition of parole or probation chemical castration decreases the occurrence of repeat offenses from 75% to 2% in pedophiles. A Eurpean study showed recidivism rates fall from 65% to 6% (again, pedophiles.)

Same results for Surgical Castration?

[Denny Crane!]

Chemical castration does work. When used as a mandatory precondition of parole or probation chemical castration decreases the occurrence of repeat offenses from 75% to 2% in pedophiles. A Eurpean study showed recidivism rates fall from 65% to 6% (again, pedophiles.)

The jury is still out. There are some published studies that suggest they may be - but these are based on giving sex offenders the drugs and observing what happens. This is not a reliable way of establishing anything in medicine. The gold standard of medical research, the double blind randomised trial, in which some patients are treated with the active drug and some with a placebo, and neither researchers nor patients know who has received what until the end of the trial, has not been conducted because sex offenders are not the sort of patients you can give a placebo to and wait to see what happens.

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From another forum on the same topic from another poster:

Technological fixes for existential problems have a habit of not working. Psychopharmacology does not prevent depression and schizophrenia being very dangerous (to the sufferer) illnesses. Depressive suicides are highly common, notwithstanding the best will of those who administer the drugs.

Hormone therapy for sex offenders might work sometimes, but the problem is that unless it is an extremely reliable fix for sexually abberant behaviour, it is unsatisfactory.

And sexual misbehaviour is not penis misbehaviour. It is mind misbehaviour. Making the penis stop working does not change the mindset of offenders. It sometimes makes them worse, in the sense that a person with sexual disfunction not uncommonly requires more and more exotic fantasy (or real) stimulus to achieve their desired outcome (sorry). I have prosecuted people who could prove without doubt, from well conducted tests, that they were impotent - they simply could not achieve an erection, through old age, cardiovascular problems or whatever. Yet they still fiddled little kids.

I'd be interested in seeing more studies in it, but true studies.

[Toho]

so lets say a woman made up that a man raped her, and later it was proven what she said happened is not exacly what happened. what happens then? do they like reverse the castration or give the dude millions of dollars to compensate?

[Heinz Guderian]

so lets say a woman made up that a man raped her, and later it was proven what she said happened is not exacly what happened. what happens then? do they like reverse the castration or give the dude millions of dollars to compensate?

unless the rapist asks for the castration option, then they cant castrate him. so in your example you would have to have a woman who falsely accuses a man of rape, and then that man agrees that he falsely raped her, then he asks for castration. i think it would be easier for him just to put his Der Hammer in an eagles mouth. we've all tried it.

[DaVinci]

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Interesting, I wonder how they castrate the offender?

So? Next time the council's anti-torture committee will urge voluntary sterilisation of females as well ...lol.

Also, the castrated one can start a new useful life, ie. as eunuch of the soon upcoming German's Kaiser harem, you know as guard.

[Heinz Guderian]

Actually, how do they castrate sex offenders in Germany? Is it the traditional Teutonic punch it with an armoured fist until it turns into roast beef or do they use chemicals?

[DaVinci]

Actually, how do they castrate sex offenders in Germany? Is it the traditional Teutonic punch it with an armoured fist until it turns into roast beef or do they use chemicals?

Bold: Nearly ... but not 'roast beef', it calls 'Rühreier' (translated possibly: mixed up bollocks).

[mongrel]

(translated possibly: mixed up bollocks).

Sorry, the temptation is too great.

I presume that castration in this case involves a regimen of drugs.

[DaVinci]

Sorry, the temptation is too great.

I presume that castration in this case involves a regimen of drugs.

You mean, Guido Westerwelle is against the 'mixed up bollocks' method?

[mongrel]

You mean, Guido Westerwelle is against the 'mixed up bollocks' method?

We should all campaign against that.

I was wrong apparently. They do indeed cut the goolies off sex offenders.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17124604