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    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...189998,00.html

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    Some 5,000 protesters marched from the Knesset compound to Jerusalem's Independence Park, where a rally was held to protest racism against Ethiopians. They carried Israeli flags and signs reading "Today it's me, tomorrow it's you" and "Stop racism."

    Avihu Ayelo, one of the leaders of the community declared that "a new page has been turned with this protest." He added, "The young, the men, the women – we are one, one people. We demand our rights. It is unacceptable we will not be allowed to raise our children as all other Jews."




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    Rami Yaakov, a law student, slammed the various Israeli governments claiming that they "hurt us and trampled over us and our parents."


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    Religious school says no to Ethiopians



    Five girls sent to Chabad school by Petah Tikva Municipality after their educational institution shut down. 'We don't take in Ethiopian children,' they are told by school staff

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    We don't take in Ethiopian children. We don't think you match our lifestyle and we're not sure about your Jewishness either." This is what five young girls of Ethiopian descent were told when they arrived with their parents at the "Or Chaya" school in Petah Tikva.


    The girls were slated to begin the school year at the "Ner Etzion" school, which only had students of Ethiopian descent. The school was closed at the instruction of Education Minister Gideon Sa'ar, following the parents' protest, and the five students were directed by the municipality to the "Or Chaya" school, which belongs to the Chabad movement.


    The girls arrived at the institution accompanied by their parents, and were met by a person at the gate who took them aside and informed them that the school was not interested in taking in Ethiopian students.

    The girls were forced to return shamefacedly to the municipality. The Education Department staff called the school and was surprised to receive the same answer: "You're welcome to lead us to the gallows. This has never happened and will never happen," a school official said.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...088147,00.html

    A position paper submitted to the committee by the Israeli Association for Ethiopian Jews said that "The separation of Ethiopian students and 'holding' then in schools 'of their own' are indicative of a clear policy of segregation, which perpetuates racist perceptions labeling them as weaker than other students
    Its not just Arab Israelis that are discrimanated against and 2nd class citizens now we have black jews being treated unfairly in this apartheid racist state.Where in some areas women have to sit down the back of the bus or be spit at.Where racist Rabbi Lior says gentile sperm in unequal to jew sperm.How can a state survive with 20% arab israelis not even wanted in the country as shown in the Koenig memorandum.And the black Ethiopeans are treated as above.Where the PA are occupied and oppressed.And we all just look on

    Speaking to a closed forum in Washington on Saturday, Clinton criticized recent legislative attempts in Israel to restrict left-wing organizations and expressed shock over growing discrimination against Israeli women. She mentioned cases of IDF soldiers leaving during performances of female singers and the fact that females sit in the back of buses in certain places in Israel. Clinton said that some of these phenomena reminded her of Iran. [Jewish Daily Forward]

    http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...VmfpyixeyAlHrQ


    'Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring'



    Rabbi Dov Lior says Jewish Law prohibits sterile couples from conceiving using non-Jew's sperm, as it causes adverse traits. On subject of single mothers he says, 'Child cannot be 100% normal' Kobi Nahshoni `
    Rabbi Dov Lior,
    a senior authority on Jewish law in the Religious Zionism movement, asserted recently that a Jewish woman should never get pregnant using sperm donated by a non-Jewish man – even if it is the last option available.

    According to Lior, a baby born through such an insemination will have the "negative genetic traits that characterize non-Jews." Instead, he advised sterile couples to adopt.
    Lior addressed the issue during a women's health conference held recently at the Puah Institute, a fertility clinic. His conservative stance negated a ruling widely accepted by rabbis, which states that sperm donated by a non-Jew is preferable to that of an anonymous Jew, who might pose a genealogical risk.


    "Sefer HaChinuch (a book of Jewish law) states that the character traits of the father pass on to the son," he said in the lecture. "If the father in not Jewish, what character traits could he have? Traits of cruelty, of barbarism! These are not traits that characterize the people of Israel."

    Lior added identified Jews as merciful, shy and charitable – qualities that he claimed could be inherited. "A person born to Jewish parents, even if they weren't raised on the Torah – there are things that are passed on (to him) in the blood, it's genetic," he explained. "If the father is a gentile, then the child is deprived of these things.


    "I even read in books that sometimes the crime, the difficult traits, the bitterness – a child that comes from these traits, it's no surprise that he won't have the qualities that characterize the people of Israel," he added.

    'Kids born to single moms become criminals'


    Lior condemned artificial insemination and sperm donation in general, saying that they lead to waste of sperm, unclear genealogy and other Jewish law offenses. He warned against undergoing intrauterine insemination at hospitals, where the workers may mix sperm samples for one reason or another - a major halachic violation.


    On the subject of women who freeze their eggs to use at a later date, the rabbi asserted that instead they should concentrate their efforts on getting married younger.


    "Our public has been influenced by a part of the Western culture in which every woman, instead of becoming a mother, needs to get a Masters Degree," he lamented. "The role of women – child rearing – is not less important than an academic degree." Lior noted that there is nothing wrong with attaining a profession, but it should not be a priority.


    Moreover, the rabbi spoke against single women getting pregnant.
    "We can understand the desire of every woman to have a child, but according to our Torah it is impossible to address the demand of a certain woman when it can cause someone else suffering," he said.

    "If a child is born without a father, he cannot be 100% normal." He stated that rabbinical literature defines these kids as "criminals and subjects of other negative phenomena
    The racism against gentile and black ethiopeans and Arab Israelis and PA shows Israel is barbaric.
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    So basically, you needed your own thread to rant about how Israel is a "racist apartheid state." Wonderful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Songeur View Post
    So basically, you needed your own thread to rant about how Israel is a "racist apartheid state." Wonderful.
    Yea, I mean we already knew that ages ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Songeur View Post
    So basically, you needed your own thread to rant about how Israel is a "racist apartheid state." Wonderful.
    Indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
    By in large, Israeli's are very tolerant.

    The problem is the minority religious zealots have had a strong influence in the government for a while now and have carved out powers for themselves which are in conflict with secular democracy.
    This. That indeed seems to be the case. Not something the OP seems to have taken into consideration.

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    Hey can I have a nickle for every anti-Israel thread? I'm planning on buying a car soon and I'm a bit short on money.

    Surprising that there are even instances of this in Israel. Even if it are very few, you'd think Jewish people would be tolerant.
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    Surprising that there are even instances of this in Israel. Even if it are very few, you'd think Jewish people would be tolerant
    By in large, Israeli's are very tolerant.

    The problem is the minority religious zealots have had a strong influence in the government for a while now and have carved out powers for themselves which are in conflict with secular democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
    By in large, Israeli's are very tolerant.

    The problem is the minority religious zealots have had a strong influence in the government for a while now and have carved out powers for themselves which are in conflict with secular democracy.
    Nailed it.

    I would say that Israelis are more tolerant than Americans or Europeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabyJones View Post
    Nailed it.

    I would say that Israelis are more tolerant than Americans or Europeans.
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    How do they know the Ethiopians are Jewish?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    How do they know the Ethiopians are Jewish?
    I'm reliably informed it has something to do with the foreskin, how they tell with girls is completely beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by In3x View Post
    I'm reliably informed it has something to do with the foreskin, how they tell with girls is completely beyond me.
    They line up black men and closely examine their genitals? Reminds me of my time at the Notting Hill Carnival last year. It was like spinning plates on sticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    They line up black men and closely examine their genitals? Reminds me of my time at the Notting Hill Carnival last year. It was like spinning plates on sticks.
    I didn't say the job didn't have perks. What the betting some sort of inadequacy issue is the real reason these kids were banned from school?
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    Which do they discriminate more against Ethiopeans or Ethiopians?
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    This kind of thing happens when you import people who you have nothing in common with just b/c they are "Jewish", same with the Neo-Nazi gangs of recent immigrants from the USSR who are only nominally Jewish.

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    This is how desperate the Jews were to bolster their numbers. Now they regret bringing them in.


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    the comments up until now are racist. start a thread about yourselves

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    It doesn't seem much like racism, but it is definitely bigotry, mostly religiously inspired. Religion isn't exactly based on logic, so this is what you get when people follow old documents to the word.

    It's also mostly confined to religious extremists, of which there are a significant population in Israel, considering Israel has been promoting immigration by Jewish extremists to counter their fear of being "outproduced" and give them some population.

    When a secular democracy allies with religious extremists, this is what can happen. It happens in a lot of places. I definitely see it in the US often enough. You can see the bigotry dripping from the Republican campaigns, who have for decades allied with religious extremists for votes.

    The solution is to overcome ignorance. But when willful ignorance is protected by religion, it's all that much harder to pierce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ash874 View Post
    the comments up until now are racist. start a thread about yourselves
    Typical ADL . Anyhow, this is nothing new. This is how they treat black jews, arabs, and when the cameras aren't rolling, european gentiles.
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    There was a lost tribe of Ethiopians?

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    it's undeniable and inevitable that a religion that emphasizes bloodlines and racial purity (Chosen-ness) will discriminate against those outside the social/racial group.

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