Using Bare_Geomod folder as base for new mod.

**Otterbear** · February 18, 2012, 12:07 PM

I have tried everything I can think of, and a few I didn't - but I cannot get any modification to "take" using the Bare_Geomod folder as a starting point.

I have about 10 different mods and 3 full copies of MTW2/Kingdoms, and I have "adjusted" all of them for various reasons and all the changes I've made (maps/unit stats/New Units/ No priest/merchant/inquisitors), They all work. But, I cannot get the Bare_Geomod to take any changes.

This is odd because that is precisely what Bare_Geomod was designed for.
This would lead me to conclude that something I've done is causing the problem.
However, I have a fresh RE-install of Bare_Geomod and still nothing can be modified.

Am I the only one with this problem?

I have UAC and Virtual files disabled.
I have MTW2/Kingdoms (hard copy - Not Steam download)
All files have been unpacked.

Thanks in advance for any help on the matter.
Otterbear

**Gigantus** · February 18, 2012, 09:28 PM

I have a clean install of Bare_Geomod and then removed the 'aquire' ability from the merchant in descr_character. Next I adjusted the entries in descr_cursor_actions, changing 'aquire' to 'Na' and removing the tooltip entry in the 'selected merchant' section, subsections 'over_enemy' and 'over-allied'.

Here is the result:

Attachment 205597

Here are the files, extract into the data folder of Bare_Geomod:

Attachment 205596

**Otterbear** · February 19, 2012, 11:42 AM

I will extract those files and check the results but, I think our problem is not proper editing, but rather getting the data read once it has been edited.
I'm going to check the read attributes of my fresh install to see if somehow that may be causing the problem as well ???
I'm still working on creating a PureBasic program to do a lot of the file manipulation for me. (Charting some of it out today.) I have the full version of PureBasic should you have any questions. I seem to recall a post where someone had the demo version.
Thanks again for you help on this.

**Otterbear** · February 19, 2012, 11:47 AM

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**Otterbear** · February 19, 2012, 12:15 PM

Hmm, I'm wondering if I've reached some kind of Mod Limit?

First off, Thanks for the info on the Proper file for listing used Nationalities.
Secondly; I removed all but the basic default kingdoms mods and Bare_Goemod. I got a strange result. My merchant disappeared, and when I replaced him, the option to aquire from another merchant was unavailable.
However all subsequent re-starts of the game...did not work. (re-starting from the main menu or from scratch.)
That is weird.

**Gigantus** · February 19, 2012, 12:09 PM

It's the nations listed in descr_strat, all of them.

**Otterbear** · February 19, 2012, 12:19 PM

I tried adding you files but it didn't work. (Was really hoping they would.)

**Otterbear** · February 19, 2012, 12:24 PM

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**Otterbear** · February 19, 2012, 12:42 PM

First off, Thanks for the info on the Proper file for listing used Nationalities.
Secondly; I removed all but the basic default kingdoms mods and Bare_Goemod. I got a strange result. My ORIGINAL merchant disappeared at around turn 2-3, and when I replaced him, the option to acquire from another merchant was unavailable.
However all subsequent re-starts of the game...did not work. (re-starting from the main menu or from scratch.)
That is weird.

It looks as though Original units don't have - or are not/can't use the modified ability. Subsequent units may...by the look of things.
I know how to remove starting units, But I've never had this issue before, so it really has me scratching my head.

**Gigantus** · February 19, 2012, 08:06 PM

That is curious, because in 'the last Kingdoms' we removed all the special abilities of the priest and never had a problem. But then we didn't change the descr_cursor_actions file and disabled heretics and witches, so it wasn't really necessary.

There might be hard coded thing involved, seeing that you cannot create new agents.

**Otterbear** · February 21, 2012, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by Gigantus

That is curious, because in 'the last Kingdoms' we removed all the special abilities of the priest and never had a problem. But then we didn't change the descr_cursor_actions file and disabled heretics and witches, so it wasn't really necessary.

There might be hard coded thing involved, seeing that you cannot create new agents.

I may have confused the issue a bit.
I can create new agents, and they Don't apparently have the "acquire" ability, but all original merchants do, thus not completely solving my problem...as any original enemy agents can still kill my merchants.

Oddly enough, I have several mods with this fixed, and I've never touched the Desc_cursor_actions file.
(I did for Bare_Geomod, but so far its not quite working...I imagine that the Desc_Cursor_Actions file is to prevent the User from having that option, but not the game units.)

**Taiji** · February 22, 2012, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by Gigantus

There might be hard coded thing involved, seeing that you cannot create new agents.

Isn't that the answer already?

**Gigantus** · February 21, 2012, 08:27 AM

With 'create' I meant have a new agent type. To be honest, I haven't come across a problem like this yet. You might have more luck with this in the text editing forum, those guys might know more.