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    Default Homeland security grants quarter million dollar mobile oppression machine to small town.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobile...n_1279983.html

    Homeland security in the past has done things like this numerous times. This town has 23k people why do they need this lunatic machine? This frivolous stupidity is what homeland security is all about. A redundant agency whose purpose is to justify radical stupidity such as that.

    The fact they also frame it as a machines needed in the war on drugs is even more laughable. What kind of insane logical fallacies justify that? You would think that New Hampshire isn't going to be fighting paramilitary criminal syndicates. However this seems to suggest the meth shacks out there are as threatening as MS13 or that this state is Afghanistan.


    The absolute worst part is this almost 300k machine is for 20 thousand people. What misplaced spending
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    Maybe they should just stick to making airports a place of misery Kanaric.
    Still like most of these time wasting agency groups, They have to get inventive to justify the old pay check.

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    Christ now the conspriacy theorists will be jumping all over this. (And the more believable they become)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voodo chile View Post
    Christ now the conspriacy theorists will be jumping all over this. (And the more believable they become)
    The militarization of the police in the United States isn't a theory. It's a fact. If you spend more than 15 minutes researching the matter, you will begin to scare yourself.

    I live in a rural town of about 2300 people. Mean per capita is 14k a year. The police force consists of the following:

    Underwater Recovery Team (There is no lake in the city limits, no rivers, or streams deeper than about 2 feet.)
    Homicide Cold Case Squad (The last murder in my town was before 1999)
    CSI Crime Scene Investigation
    S.W.A.T.
    Mobile Response Unit
    K-9 Corps
    Communications Division
    Motorcycle Squad
    Mounted Division (We need motorcycles AND horses in a 2 stoplight town?)
    Band and Drill Team (really?)
    Cartography Unit
    Pawnshop Squad (There are 2 pawnshops in town)
    Printing Department (?)
    Identification Bureau (?)

    Since 2002, there have been zero murders, zero rapes, 6 robberies, about 120 assaults, about 35 auto thefts and 16 arson cases.

    Explain to me why my town is paying for paramilitary weapons and training?
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    Default Re: Homeland security grants quarter million dollar mobile oppression machine to small town.

    Quote Originally Posted by xcorps View Post
    Explain to me why my town is paying for paramilitary weapons and training?
    Because some politicians and higher-ups in the defense industry are getting rich, and that's all that matters. Banks are making loads too.

    You might need an APC to handle a rape one day though, so it might not all go to waste.
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    Default Re: Homeland security grants quarter million dollar mobile oppression machine to small town.

    Quote Originally Posted by xcorps View Post
    The militarization of the police in the United States isn't a theory. It's a fact. If you spend more than 15 minutes researching the matter, you will begin to scare yourself.

    I live in a rural town of about 2300 people. Mean per capita is 14k a year. The police force consists of the following:

    Underwater Recovery Team (There is no lake in the city limits, no rivers, or streams deeper than about 2 feet.)
    Homicide Cold Case Squad (The last murder in my town was before 1999)
    CSI Crime Scene Investigation
    S.W.A.T.
    Mobile Response Unit
    K-9 Corps
    Communications Division
    Motorcycle Squad
    Mounted Division (We need motorcycles AND horses in a 2 stoplight town?)
    Band and Drill Team (really?)
    Cartography Unit
    Pawnshop Squad (There are 2 pawnshops in town)
    Printing Department (?)
    Identification Bureau (?)

    Since 2002, there have been zero murders, zero rapes, 6 robberies, about 120 assaults, about 35 auto thefts and 16 arson cases.

    Explain to me why my town is paying for paramilitary weapons and training?
    Well its obviously working. Your scaring away all the rapists and murderers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    Well its obviously working. Your scaring away all the rapists and murderers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    Well its obviously working. Your scaring away all the rapists and murderers.
    Chemical castration will do the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcorps View Post
    The militarization of the police in the United States isn't a theory. It's a fact. If you spend more than 15 minutes researching the matter, you will begin to scare yourself.

    I live in a rural town of about 2300 people. Mean per capita is 14k a year. The police force consists of the following:

    Underwater Recovery Team (There is no lake in the city limits, no rivers, or streams deeper than about 2 feet.)
    Homicide Cold Case Squad (The last murder in my town was before 1999)
    CSI Crime Scene Investigation
    S.W.A.T.
    Mobile Response Unit
    K-9 Corps
    Communications Division
    Motorcycle Squad
    Mounted Division (We need motorcycles AND horses in a 2 stoplight town?)
    Band and Drill Team (really?)
    Cartography Unit
    Pawnshop Squad (There are 2 pawnshops in town)
    Printing Department (?)
    Identification Bureau (?)

    Since 2002, there have been zero murders, zero rapes, 6 robberies, about 120 assaults, about 35 auto thefts and 16 arson cases.

    Explain to me why my town is paying for paramilitary weapons and training?
    That's nuts.

    So much money has been wasted since 9/11 on stuff like this. There's no oversight; they get what they ask for.



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    Quote Originally Posted by xcorps View Post
    The militarization of the police in the United States isn't a theory. It's a fact. If you spend more than 15 minutes researching the matter, you will begin to scare yourself.

    I live in a rural town of about 2300 people. Mean per capita is 14k a year. The police force consists of the following:

    Underwater Recovery Team (There is no lake in the city limits, no rivers, or streams deeper than about 2 feet.)
    Homicide Cold Case Squad (The last murder in my town was before 1999)
    CSI Crime Scene Investigation
    S.W.A.T.
    Mobile Response Unit
    K-9 Corps
    Communications Division
    Motorcycle Squad
    Mounted Division (We need motorcycles AND horses in a 2 stoplight town?)
    Band and Drill Team (really?)
    Cartography Unit
    Pawnshop Squad (There are 2 pawnshops in town)
    Printing Department (?)
    Identification Bureau (?)

    Since 2002, there have been zero murders, zero rapes, 6 robberies, about 120 assaults, about 35 auto thefts and 16 arson cases.

    Explain to me why my town is paying for paramilitary weapons and training?
    I feel ing insecure; my town of 8,000 doesn't have any of that stuff. Just cop cars and normal police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malzahar View Post
    I feel ing insecure; my town of 8,000 doesn't have any of that stuff. Just cop cars and normal police.
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    Last edited by removeduser_4536284751384; February 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM.

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    Default Re: Homeland security grants quarter million dollar mobile oppression machine to small town.

    Quote Originally Posted by xcorps View Post
    The militarization of the police in the United States isn't a theory. It's a fact. If you spend more than 15 minutes researching the matter, you will begin to scare yourself.

    I live in a rural town of about 2300 people. Mean per capita is 14k a year. The police force consists of the following:

    Underwater Recovery Team (There is no lake in the city limits, no rivers, or streams deeper than about 2 feet.)
    Homicide Cold Case Squad (The last murder in my town was before 1999)
    CSI Crime Scene Investigation
    S.W.A.T.
    Mobile Response Unit
    K-9 Corps
    Communications Division
    Motorcycle Squad
    Mounted Division (We need motorcycles AND horses in a 2 stoplight town?)
    Band and Drill Team (really?)
    Cartography Unit
    Pawnshop Squad (There are 2 pawnshops in town)
    Printing Department (?)
    Identification Bureau (?)

    Since 2002, there have been zero murders, zero rapes, 6 robberies, about 120 assaults, about 35 auto thefts and 16 arson cases.

    Explain to me why my town is paying for paramilitary weapons and training?
    Seriously? Those things are the norm in most police departments. Police departments have a variety of different divisions, sections and units that operate under its direction. Those things aren't out of the ordinary, and just because your town has a small population doesn't mean the police don't need those different units.There is probably a reason for those, and not "just because it looks cool".
    Last edited by (s)AINT; February 17, 2012 at 10:15 PM.

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    Default Re: Homeland security grants quarter million dollar mobile oppression machine to small town.

    Wow thats a waste of ing money. I wonder how much crime is committed in this town? Oh how did they get by before.

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    Default Re: Homeland security grants quarter million dollar mobile oppression machine to small town.

    Admittedly this is in a different league than the homeland security emergency snowcone maker some place in michigan bought.

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    Default Re: Homeland security grants quarter million dollar mobile oppression machine to small town.

    MoA already hit the main point, waste of money by a municipality. It's going to be funny seeing people call America a police state over this by the third page or so.

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    Default Re: Homeland security grants quarter million dollar mobile oppression machine to small town.

    Generally law enforcement has a habit of buying the most worthless, and completely out-of-proportion things to help in their "war on crime," which generally doesn't warrant giant armored vehicles or, in the case of my small town police department's arsenal, an automatic shotgun that I hear about the police having occasionally.

    Also, what a fantastic use of our taxes!

    I don't imagine Keene, NH having a lot of crime. Maybe the typical burglaries and other petty crimes, but it isn't like there is a drug syndicate here.

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    Whoever gets to drive that around is going to feel like a total BAMF.
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    I wouldn't like to see that thing trying to fight paramilitaries. You could take out the tyres with a few well-placed rounds and I doubt the armour will stand up to much more than a 5.56.
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    Default Re: Homeland security grants quarter million dollar mobile oppression machine to small town.

    They get money in the budget. Plenty of money.
    So if they want to get the same or bigger amount next year they need to spend it.
    If they not spend it they get less money next year.
    So they look for some costly stuff so they can spend this.
    It happen in everyplace ruled by bureacrats.
    So they spend money to get more money to spend.
    Its that way burearcay grow.

    It also help to link local elities with goverment.
    Last edited by Sarissofoi; February 16, 2012 at 03:26 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarissofoi View Post
    They get money in the budget. Plenty of money.
    So if they want to get the same or bigger amount next year they need to spend it.
    If they not spend it they get less money next year.
    So they look for some costly stuff so they can spend this.
    It happen in everyplace ruled by bureacrats.
    So they spend money to get more money to spend.
    Its that way burearcay grow.
    True, thats a good point and unfortunate, this car will prob just sit around and only get used in training missions but if the town is smart they will sell the car.

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