Drug war gone too far?

[Imperator Romani]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-n...b_1277330.html

And the government has officially went too far (in my opinion). Not only are they arresting children, with the possibility of being charged with a felony, they are using a fear tactic. Find another way to wage war on drugs, don't deceive and lead children into doing things so that you can arrest them.

[Psychonaut]

We don't have cops going undercover as teenagers in my school (I think), but I know for a fact that they make fake facebook accounts posing as students and use them to spy on us. I deleted everyone I don't know from my friends list, so I'm good, but I know a few kids who got suspended/expelled/arrested for having pictures of them smoking/drinking on facebook.

The lengths police go to just to arrest kids for minor possession is ridiculous. Cops, especially the ones my town, continue to pull things like this and then wonder why teens and young adults are losing respect for them. I know its "illegal," but honestly who am I hurting if I smoke a joint every once in a while? Who's rights am I infringing on if I have a few beers at a party?

One would think police would have something better to do that would actually benefit society (what with the high violent crime rate and all), yet resources and manpower are wasted on ruining kids' lives because they like to get high.

the police and .

[mrmouth]

Forget arresting children. I'll sleep. The money wasted is reason enough.

CNN article (written by Bush jr drug czar), today, tries to make a case for legalization not cutting down on abuse. No . I think the idea is to cut down on organized crime.

Whitney Houston.

[Logios]

We don't have cops going undercover as teenagers in my school (I think), but I know for a fact that they make fake facebook accounts posing as students and use them to spy on us. I deleted everyone I don't know from my friends list, so I'm good, but I know a few kids who got suspended/expelled/arrested for having pictures of them smoking/drinking on facebook.

The lengths police go to just to arrest kids for minor possession is ridiculous. Cops, especially the ones my town, continue to pull things like this and then wonder why teens and young adults are losing respect for them. I know its "illegal," but honestly who am I hurting if I smoke a joint every once in a while? Who's rights am I infringing on if I have a few beers at a party?

One would think police would have something better to do that would actually benefit society (what with the high violent crime rate and all), yet resources and manpower are wasted on ruining kids' lives because they like to get high.

the police and .

Careful what you post, they may have profiles here on TWC as well and ways to find out who you are.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Go after the dealers not the buyers... Arresting and giving users a record only makes their life and their prospects slim... hence making the economy and society worse off...

So a hot 25 something makes a young boy fall in love with her and convinces him to go and find pot for her with the unsaid implication he might get laid tonight since every young guy is wishing he will get laid... is she up on charges for molestation?


I dont think there is much exaggeration here... what these cops did was sick and disgusting.

The drug war is sick. How much money was wasted by our law enforcement to get these few bags of marijuana "off the streets"? How do these cops look themselves in the mirror? Seducing 18-year-olds to fall in love or pretending to be friends and then tricking them into procuring small amounts of marijuana so they can charge them with felonies is beyond slimy and diametrically opposed to the officers' charge to "serve and protect."

How do you ask kids you befriended if they have a drugs and if they say no you keep asking until they find some for you?

Did they target only 18 yr olds in Highschool? Is 18 yrs a magic number where they can be charged as an adult and have the felony over their heads for the rest of their life? Despite the fact they are still basically kids in HIGH School? Now they have no prospects after highschool because of the felony? Besides 2 yrs in a prison as a young boy who will prob get raped.

[Psychonaut]

Hold on... wouldn't this constitute police entrapment? According to wikipedia, entrapment is when these three conditions are fulfilled:

1. The idea for committing the crime came from the government agents and not from the person accused of the crime.
2. Government agents then persuaded or talked the person into committing the crime. Simply giving someone the opportunity to commit a crime is not the same as persuading them to commit that crime.
3. The person was not ready and willing to commit the crime before interaction with the government agents.

These three seem to be fulfilled in the case of the 18 year old student with the 25 year old undercover...

[MathiasOfAthens]

Hold on... wouldn't this constitute police entrapment? According to wikipedia, entrapment is when these three conditions are fulfilled:



These three seem to be fulfilled in the case of the 18 year old student with the 25 year old undercover...

A Good lawyer could get these kids off on entrapment but prob not...

If the uncover female cops asked for pot and used their sexuality in the process then they didnt necessarily have to ask the kids to find the pot. If the texts didnt ask the kids to buy the drugs then it prob wasnt entrapment. When cops do these things they tend to think everything out very clearly. Odds are its pretty air tight.

The girls enticed the boys to buy drugs by using their sexuality and friendship and the kids bought the drugs on their own and prob surprised the girls.

[Condottiere 40K]

Sounds more like enticement.

[Thorn777]

This is how Johnny Depp started his career back in the 80's. Seems the war on drugs is running out of ideas.

[xcorps]

And the government has officially went too far (in my opinion). Not only are they arresting children, with the possibility of being charged with a felony, they are using a fear tactic. .

The US government specializes in this sort of thing.

Here's the result of the USG getting involved in a very simple custody dispute:














Note how the sturmtruppen in the picture politely keeps his finger off the trigger of the fully automatic submachine gun he has pointed at Elian Gonzalez.

[Imperator Romani]

@ MathiasofAthens
Surprised? Well yeah I would be too. The kid was an honors student that didn't sell weed or smoke it. If the cop hadn't walked him through it the kid wouldn't have touched the stuff.

[Claudius Gothicus]

The drug war was never an option at all... that's something which both the GOPs and Dems have to explain to American society and the world yet, truly a shame.

[Border Patrol]

Drug war gone too far? Since its inception.

[YuriVII]

Drug war gone too far? Since its inception.

This
Drug War is not working. All it does is cause relatively normal people who make some bad decisions that harm no one but themselves into being stuck in the machine of American justice. You can go after the dealers but that won't fix the problem either. Meth and cocaine is bad news and I am undecided if they should be illegal or legal...but as far as marijuana goes I think there is no medical or societal reason to keep it illegal. It does more public harm than public good. Currently the biggest harm that marijuana has to the user is that it will get them arrested. Take away the illegality of it and you just have a bunch of hungry people. Fast Food stocks will rise once it become legal again.

You know its these types of things why people say America is a police state. I agree with them.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

The governments need to sell the drugs and take out the bad guys.The tax will go to roads schools and hospitals.
And we will create jobs making pure safer drugs that dont have shite like rat poison in them.
And we will not have to pay lots of money trying to stop dealers as there will be no dealers left as we will be producing better cheaper drugs.

Oh and guess how much money drug gangs make in jail where they can sell a drug 10 times its street value.Give them free drugs and the gang loses its power in jail.

[Gatsby]

Why do drugs need to be illegal at all?

[lordoftheT]

Why do drugs need to be illegal at all?

Gotta have some way of letting politicians give speeches about how they are fighting to keep out streets clean.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Correct your question preston.

Why does MaryJ have to be illegal? I am pretty sure there are valid reasons to restrict crack, cocain, LSD and Opium among others like roofies.

[Kanaric]

We don't have cops going undercover as teenagers in my school (I think), but I know for a fact that they make fake facebook accounts posing as students and use them to spy on us. I deleted everyone I don't know from my friends list, so I'm good, but I know a few kids who got suspended/expelled/arrested for having pictures of them smoking/drinking on facebook.

The lengths police go to just to arrest kids for minor possession is ridiculous. Cops, especially the ones my town, continue to pull things like this and then wonder why teens and young adults are losing respect for them. I know its "illegal," but honestly who am I hurting if I smoke a joint every once in a while? Who's rights am I infringing on if I have a few beers at a party?

One would think police would have something better to do that would actually benefit society (what with the high violent crime rate and all), yet resources and manpower are wasted on ruining kids' lives because they like to get high.

the police and .

I hate this where a school tries to police kids outside of school. Idiocy at its highest levels.

[MathiasOfAthens]

I bet the kids were black from a majority black school? Who wants to place bets?