Best unit and why?

**Sir Luock** · February 15, 2012, 03:39 AM

It can include Kingdoms.

My best units are both the Constable of Jerusalem and Marshal of the Templars (both KoJ).

Purely because with one charge of both (at the same time) I destroyed a whole unit of Egyptian heavy infantry (Khasseki infantry I think).

**Mhaedros** · February 15, 2012, 03:43 AM

A charge with any semi good heavy cavalry destroys a whole unit at once, but they are much slower. I think the Norse Axemen are really cool

**Sir Luock** · February 15, 2012, 03:46 AM

Another unit for me is the Forlorn Hope (HRE).

**El Cid99** · February 15, 2012, 03:56 AM

From each of the campaigns:

Grand Campaign: Probably Conquistadores (mounted and dismounted) or Dvor (mounted and dismounted).

Britannia: The Welsh unique longbows (the ones in the picture) (very descriptive, right?)

Crusades: Greek Firethrowers (MWAHAHAHAHA) or Canons of the Holy Sepulcher.

Teutonic: Mangonels. Hehehe... or Dvor again.

Americas: Spanish Dragoons. They run rings around everything else.

**Blaze of Macedon** · February 15, 2012, 03:56 AM

Pure melee inf: Forlorn Hope in Kingdoms, Dismounted Conquistadores in M2.

Pikes: Aventuros and Highland Noble Pikemen in both M2 and Kingdoms.

Multipurpose inf: Dismounted Dvor and Ottoman Infantry in M2, idk in Kingdoms.

Gunpowder: Janissary Musketeers and Cossack Musketeers in both M2 and Kingdoms.

Pure melee cav: upgraded Teutonic Knights, Tsars Guard, Quapakulus in M2, idk in Kingdoms.

HA/Jav Cav: Jinets, Mamluk HA, Cossack HA in M2, not sure about Kingdoms.

**El Cid99** · February 15, 2012, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by Blaze of Macedon

Pure melee inf: Forlorn Hope in Kingdoms, Dismounted Conquistadores in M2.

Pikes: Aventuros and Highland Noble Pikemen in both M2 and Kingdoms.

Multipurpose inf: Dismounted Dvor and Ottoman Infantry in M2, idk in Kingdoms.

Gunpowder: Janissary Musketeers and Cossack Musketeers in both M2 and Kingdoms.

Pure melee cav: upgraded Teutonic Knights, Tsars Guard, Quapakulus in M2, idk in Kingdoms.

HA/Jav Cav: Jinets, Mamluk HA, Cossack HA in M2, not sure about Kingdoms.

Highland Noble Pikemen isn't a unit. I think you meant Noble Pikemen.

Oh yeah, add Quapukulu to my list. How can you have Cossacks, but not Dvor/Vardariotai?

Anyway, I'm done picking on you

**Blaze of Macedon** · February 15, 2012, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by El Cid99

Highland Noble Pikemen isn't a unit. I think you meant Noble Pikemen.

Oh yeah, add Quapukulu to my list. How can you have Cossacks, but not Dvor/Vardariotai?

Anyway, I'm done picking on you

The " We're not the Scottish rabble with sticks from Braveheart but classy aristocracy that were molested by horses in their childhood so we don't like charging the battefield as heavy knights as most of the other nobles in Europe but fight on foot with fancy armor and long pikes" units. You get the point.

I don't like Dvor cause they aren't fast moving, and that's the most important trait for HA if you ask me. As for Vardariatoi, same as for the Turkish HA unit they are close with the Mamluk HA, so not sure which one to chose. I don't think any of em have the fast moving trait but for medium HA they do a great job.

**Teutonic Warlord** · February 15, 2012, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Blaze of Macedon

The " We're not the Scottish rabble with sticks from Braveheart but classy aristocracy that were molested by horses in their childhood so we don't like charging the battefield as heavy knights as most of the other nobles in Europe but fight on foot with fancy armor and long pikes" units. You get the point.

I don't like Dvor cause they aren't fast moving, and that's the most important trait for HA if you ask me. As for Vardariatoi, same as for the Turkish HA unit they are close with the Mamluk HA, so not sure which one to chose. I don't think any of em have the fast moving trait but for medium HA they do a great job.

I think the Vardariotai have better stats than the Turkish HAs and Mamluk HAs. Either way, they definitely have the fast moving, good stamina, and good morale traits.

**Blaze of Macedon** · February 15, 2012, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Teutonic Warlord

I think the Vardariotai have better stats than the Turkish HAs and Mamluk HAs. Either way, they definitely have the fast moving, good stamina, and good morale traits.

Then scratch Mamluks from my list and put Vardariatoi instead

Might as well put the Dvor Cav there, just in case someone is looking for an armoured, rhather than fast moving HA unit...

**Spitfire -WONDERBOLT!** · February 15, 2012, 04:55 AM

Teutonic order halbeders.

**Nazgûl Killer** · February 15, 2012, 07:06 AM

Teutonic Knights. Armored Swordsmen (England). Knights Hospitaller. My top three favorites.

**Sir Luock** · February 15, 2012, 09:10 AM

New faves:

KINGDOMS

Light Infantry - Peasants

(only joking it's Order Militia with full armour etc.

)
Heavy Infantry - Teutonic Ritterbruder

- Teutonic Order
Spearmen - Templar Sergeants - KoJ

Light Cavalry - Scouts? - Norway

Heavy Cavalry - Constable of Jerusalem/Marshal of the Templars - KoJ

Missile Infantry - Livonian Auxiliaries - Teutonic Order

Missile Cavalry - Turkopoles - KoJ

Artillery - Trebuchet - Teutonic Order

**Double A** · April 15, 2012, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by Sir Luock

New faves:

KINGDOMS

Light Infantry - Peasants

(only joking it's Order Militia with full armour etc.

)
Heavy Infantry - Teutonic Ritterbruder

- Teutonic Order
Spearmen - Templar Sergeants - KoJ

Light Cavalry - Scouts? - Norway

Heavy Cavalry - Constable of Jerusalem/Marshal of the Templars - KoJ

Missile Infantry - Livonian Auxiliaries - Teutonic Order

Missile Cavalry - Turkopoles - KoJ

Artillery - Trebuchet - Teutonic Order

Scouts are

ing terrible. Use Serbian Hussars. They are the sex. Alan are the best fast LC because of shields.

Anyway, Dragoons are the best unit in the game. They have guns with no fire by rank. Their overpoweredness is only compounded by their horses.

**Mhaedros** · February 15, 2012, 12:37 PM

IIRC Turkopeles have pretty good stats as well.

**Sursion** · February 15, 2012, 01:46 PM

Elephant Artillery

**lolIsuck** · February 15, 2012, 02:04 PM

Every unit that is better then my enemy...

**Willowran** · February 15, 2012, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by lolIsuck

Every unit that is better then my enemy...

light inf: no idea (i just use spear militia)
heavy inf: Ritterbruder, or forlorn hope (but only in kingdoms)
archer/ranged inf:dismounted dvor (they're as nearly as strong physically as the strongest organised russian infantry! :o Oh. and they have arrows, too, i suppose...)
light cav:no idea. (rarely waste money on light cav.)
heavy cav: tsars guard
missle cav:dvor. (may not be so fast, but they're pretty tanked out. i didnt experiment much with ranged horse. i tend to avoid them 'cause theyre too easy).
artillery:serpentine
other:elephants WITH CANNONS

**Mhaedros** · February 15, 2012, 03:14 PM

light inf: Vikings
heavy inf: Norse axemen and Gallioclah or whatever the name is.
archer/ranged inf:Crossbowmen
light cav: Hobilars os smth
heavy cav: Heavy Mongol cavalry or some kind of french late era cav
missle cav: Turkomans
artillery: Ballistae. Good accuracy and OK range

**trustno1(2)** · February 15, 2012, 04:21 PM

Vanilla Game

Forlorn Hope - HRE

Britannia

Norse Swordsmen (Norway)

Crusades

Heavy Janissary Infantry (Turks)

Teutonic

Sword Brethren (Teutonic Order)

Americas

Sword and Butler Men (New Spain)

**Blaze of Macedon** · February 15, 2012, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by trustno1(2)

Vanilla Game

Forlorn Hope - HRE

Britannia

Norse Swordsmen (Norway)

Crusades

Heavy Janissary Infantry (Turks)

Teutonic

Sword Brethren (Teutonic Order)

Americas

Sword and Butler Men (New Spain)

vs.