Would you play a singleplayer WWII FPS from the Axis Perspective?

[{nF}remix]

This is more of a political thread then a game thread. My question is, would you play a WWII FPS such as Medal of Honor or Call of Duty but from a German/Japanese/Italian Soldiers perspective of the war? Do you think the American gaming community is ready for such a game? I certainly would, its not that I want to be a nazi/imperialist/facist. The average German soldier was not aware of Hitler's massacres. The average Japanese soldier was called on by his nation to fight for what many Japanese was a just cause, its not that they were bad people at all. Same can be said about the Italians. It would be about the struggles and harships of fighting a losing war and would certainly bring in more life to the stale WWII FPS genre.

Thoughts?

[General Sun]

It would bring different WW2 missions certainly, not the ones that gets recycled over and over again, but no less different in terms of gameplay or anything really interesting. "The average German soldier was not aware of Hitler's massacres." I highly doubt that remix, source please?

In terms of prespective, I don't think it'll really add anything. WW2 FPS has always been about action and level design, playing as a different side won't be anything special.

[Drexxus Maximus]

In terms of prespective, I don't think it'll really add anything. WW2 FPS has always been about action and level design, playing as a different side won't be anything special.

I couldnt disagree more. It would add a completely new perspective. For WW2 buffs like myself I'd love to play a WW2 fps from the Axis side, in fact, I'm amazed no one has made one yet. I guess it takes balls to make a game like that...and no one has any.

[General Sun]

I couldnt disagree more. It would add a completely new perspective. For WW2 buffs like myself I'd love to play a WW2 fps from the Axis side, in fact, I'm amazed no one has made one yet. I guess it takes balls to make a game like that...and no one has any.

Please explain, in my view you're just shooting at guys in different uniforms.

[Drexxus Maximus]

Please explain, in my view you're just shooting at guys in different uniforms.

Well, if you're not a huge WW2 guy you're right, it wouldnt be much different. But for people like me who are really into WW2 it would provide a really cool experience to play as the Axis in key battles during the war. When you play current WW2 games youd think the Allies never lost a battle, there are exceptions but you get what I mean. I guess for me it's just an historical thing, I think it would be neat. :original:

[Rapax]

Please explain, in my view you're just shooting at guys in different uniforms.

Well with that attitude every FPS is the same. Playing from an axis viewpoint we could actually get to play the campaigns where germany was victorious, something that an allied viewpoint can't and won't touch. For example you could be a german paratrooper who were involved in some of the riskiest operations and heaviest fighting throughout the war, taking eben emael, jumping into crete, defending monte cassino, playing fire fighters on the eastern front a.s.o.
Of course I'd want the game to be apoliticial, focusing on the soldier, his experience and trauma possibly with a tragic ending to the overall campaign to make it really good. That also means it shouldn't be a flag waving script controlled experience like CoD, but rather a game that tries to portray WW2 battles in a realistic and brutal manner.

[Sétanta]

Yes I would. Simply because the German Soldiers were not these evil nazis that everybody thinks they are and their side of the story is important too.


That and killing them is getting old.

[Dionysios II The Great]

Answering the topic's title.
I've thought about this before, the only difficulty i see to produce such games is: that the Germans lost the war in the end, and well, you have to win mission in a game.

I would love to play as Germans, Italians, Japanese etc. though while they were conquering.

[Ahiga]

I'd play as a German or Italian (I sometimes do in Red Orchestra), but not a japanese.

[Richard]

I'd play as a German or Italian (I sometimes do in Red Orchestra), but not a japanese.

Oh dear, I thought that kind of thinking died out in the 60s. (sorry for double post, I didn't know how to put the quote in an edit)

[Last Roman]

Oh dear, I thought that kind of thinking died out in the 60s. (sorry for double post, I didn't know how to put the quote in an edit)

just copy/paste and then put a [QUOTE] (make sure to use a back slash on the second quote mark) around what ever you want to quote, when editing

anyhoo, to the guy who said that, why not the Japanese?

[Caesar Germanico]

yes i agree,in the ww2 german army some ss soldiers of massacres and other staff the normal german soldier just fought against enemies army..the italians..well there were no elite force type ss and random soldiers did orrible staff in ethiopia and in jugoslavia countries and greece but only few soldiers did that and the vast majority did nt even know about..as for japanese well they did mass killings and a lot of them did it,i really dont understan why there are no games of the player being a german in the battle for france or defeating greeks and english in greece defending normandy or fight against americans in italy would be ok and then why u can play russians in some games,they did orrible things during the war

that "The average German soldier was not aware of Hitler's massacres." I highly doubt that remix, source please?

well germans did vote hitler in a democratic way even when he was speaking to kill the jews but most historians still believe that most of the soldiers didnt know about hitler massacres espiacialy the late germans teens fighting in the army,i dont have any link but i am sure i can find a good realible source in 20 mins maybe i will repost later

[Lord Agelmar]

I would also love to play from their perspective, it would make things quite interesting. Even though the Axis lost the war they had many military successes it would be neat to play out.

[LiciniusII]

Well the only problem would be that the campaign can only be based on the years of 1939-1942 and no further, because the germans have been losing on a constant basis since 1943, and I dont think anyone wants to play a game where you technically lose every mission

[Ahlerich]

Well the only problem would be that the campaign can only be based on the years of 1939-1942 and no further, because the germans have been losing on a constant basis since 1943, and I dont think anyone wants to play a game where you technically lose every mission

that depends. of course they where retreating in the big picture abut they still carried out little missions an battles they won.
there was a little fortress and trenches on the southwest german-french border that has been conquered back by waffen ss even early in 1945. just as one example. playing a german campaign until the end of course will en in germanies defeat/liberation of hitler.
but the way there could have exiting missions.
eg:
destroying bridges to slow down enemy advancement, destroy little outposts,radio.
be left behind with a few men and paks to stop fast advancing enemy tanks.
sabotaging airfields etc.
or little counter offensive attacks.
i mean world war 2 was not limited to the major important and famous battles that were lost by the germans mostly after 1942.
there would be a lot material. the defeat of germany in the end would be no problem.
one could draw the way of a single soldier through the horror of ww2 with the ultimate goal to survive until the war is over - a goal that every (non fanatic) soldier of all countries in ww2 had in common

[sephodwyrm]

I would play as anything. But I know that not many others would stomach it. Hey, I played Japan for HOI2.

[MoROmeTe]

As long as the game does not try and make you shoot Jews or gas Slavs (which I suppose any game that hits the market won't) I'll play as a Nazi German soldier, a Fascist Italy or an Imperial Japan soldier. I see no problem. And I think a lot of people would stomach it allright. After all Hearts of Iron 2 is hugely popular in part thanks to the fact that one can take Nazi Germany to victory rather than defeat. A lot of people play Imperial Japan, too. Surely Fascist Italy does not get a lot of love, but I think their military infamous exploits, not ideology, is the reason for that...

So, in short, let's see that game. Might bring something new tr the "clone market" that are WWII FPS'...

[iKossu]

Of course I would play such FPS game! In fact, I'm confused that such game isn't out already: Adolf Hitler, other nazis and the Third Reich in whole are part of history, there's no point in denying it or avoiding the subject. I just wonder when someone will create such a game. It would certainly get plenty of free advertisement...

[Niles Crane]

Certainly, I've been waiting for such a game to come out. It's much more interesting than the American, British or Russian point of view. I was hoping in Call of Duty 2 that they might include the option, but alas!

[LiciniusII]

I guess its really the moral implications of it which is my belief that no game like this has come out. Personally I would not want to play a German soldier being first off that I am a jew and the thought that regardless of the fact that its just a videogame, you get that feeling in the back of your mind that you're preserving the reich as long as possible, and turning it into something cool to play as the people who tried to exterminate you.