Norwegians and HRE in Teutonic Campaign

**Kitsunegari** · February 11, 2012, 08:03 PM

Can the Norwegians not recruit units or did i

something up by making them playable? I tried playing as Norway and couldn't recruit anything even after building the supposedly necessary structures. Anyway, that would explain why they get steamrolled by Denmark in my games so far. I played as the Mongols and it works fine except there are no unit responses in the campaign maps (there are some in the battles though).
Edit: I played as HRE and they seem to be normal as far as recruiting...

**Aeratus** · February 11, 2012, 11:40 PM

Norway and Mongols aren't "normal" in that they don't have AI money scripts, otherwise, they should be fully playable factions. The problem with unit creation might be because you don't have Kingdoms patched to 1.5.

Mongols are supposed to not have campaign map voices for your own units. Those were never recorded for the Mongol accent. Other than that, the faction is complete. The Mongol units no longer have 0 upkeep like they do in vanilla.

**Teutonic Warlord** · February 12, 2012, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Aeratus

Norway and Mongols aren't "normal" in that they don't have AI money scripts, otherwise, they should be fully playable factions. The problem with unit creation might be because you don't have Kingdoms patched to 1.5.

Mongols are supposed to not have campaign map voices for your own units. Those were never recorded for the Mongol accent. Other than that, the faction is complete. The Mongol units no longer have 0 upkeep like they do in vanilla.

Actually, I have Gold Edition, and Norway can't produce units. In fact, they don't even have models for some of their units. I honestly think that Norway was either unfinished (or maybe they messed up some of the files) in this campaign. It doesn't really make much sense, though, since Norway was complete in Brittania. Perhaps they made Norway that way so that an AI Denmark can more easily create the Kalmar Union?

**Kitsunegari** · February 12, 2012, 01:03 AM

I have Gold as well. I see Norway's roster in the custom battle menu, but they can't recruit ANYTHING during the actual campaign. Actually right clicking on the unit feudal knights you start out with shows an image of a Roman peasant unit from RTW

I guess HRE's AI doesn't like to spend either b/c they always are getting steamrolled and i see their wealth as "limitless". I am trying playing them right now and doing alright just that their provinces are large and undeveloped (same problem as playing with the Mongols). Overall i'm kind of disappointed that they would leave Norway like that, allows Denmark super easy expansion. Is their anyway to port Norway's Britannia roster to Teutonic?

**Mhaedros** · February 12, 2012, 01:34 AM

You cant recruit anything because they made an EDB where it wasnt possible for Norway to do anything. It's simple, but time consuming to add Norway into it. I havent tried their units myself tho.

edit: The roman peasant is the games vanilla thing to add if there is no 'real' pic of that unit

**tudor93** · February 12, 2012, 02:07 AM

and a little bit off topic

: I have gold edition too and the game was patched to 1.3 (or 1.2, whatever, I know that it wasn't 1.5), I had to manualy install 1.5 ; go check your version just in case

**Aeratus** · February 12, 2012, 02:59 AM

The Gold Edition is only 1.3 and not 1.5. But anyhow, reading the patch logs, it appears that the 1.5 patch did not fix Norway's inability to recruit units (too lazy to confirm this, so someone else should check). So I guess it's intentional to have Norway be sitting ducks and unplayable.

**Mhaedros** · February 12, 2012, 04:06 AM

As I said it's easy, but very time consuming to change

**A Demented Goldfish** · February 12, 2012, 05:19 AM

its like that because the only reason they are in the game is to form the kalmar union with denmark

**Sweger** · February 12, 2012, 06:03 AM

And adding HRE was also waste of time, HRE and Poland are unlockable anyway

EDIT: To play as "Sweden", you can just play as Rebels...

**Blaze of Macedon** · February 12, 2012, 06:45 AM

Huh?

Denmark steamrolling something? I'm in the middle of my first Teutonic campaign and the Danish are utterly inactive. Novgorod and the Mongols have declared on me and i'm kicking their butt after having exterminated the pagans and Poland and the HRE are at each others throats but Schandinavia is totaly uneventful!

**Teutonic Warlord** · February 12, 2012, 10:13 AM

Strange. HRE isn't really doing anything in other people's games? HRE is usually expansionist and builds quite a few armies in my games. Of course, they end up getting steamrolled because they stupidly go to war with Poland and Denmark at the same time.

Off-topic question: why are there so many villages and so few castles? I believer there are 18 villages (or at least 15+). Except for the TO, everyone basically has one or two castles(Mongols have none and TO has 4) and there are no rebel castles.

**Mhaedros** · February 12, 2012, 11:35 AM

The many village are some kind of mercenery thing. Since the recruitment of merc. are based in regions, they made lots of small regions

Anyone else noticed Chernobyl BTW? I felt kinda evil when I exterminated the settlement

**Kitsunegari** · February 12, 2012, 03:40 PM

Yeah for some reason the Danes have taken over all of Scandinavia and most of HRE (who was dumb enough to fight Poland at the same time) in my first campaign.

**Kitsunegari** · February 13, 2012, 10:14 PM

Anyone else tried a campaign as the Mongols? I've built a pretty strong army and carved out most of the SE corner of the map but it's taken a LONG time, so many worthless territories.

**Aeratus** · February 14, 2012, 01:44 AM

Yes. Mongols were the second campaign I played on Teutonic. It was fun so I even wrote a miniguide on it (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=462550)

Mongols can build units right from castle walls, which means it's easy to get a full stack of heavy lancers and khan's guard. A frontal assault melts the infantry-heavy Teutonic armies in a few seconds.