Worst AI moments

**Pounders** · February 10, 2012, 11:12 PM

I'm sure its been done a thousand times but I have a fascinating story of some insane AI diplomacy moves. I'm playing Lithuania on the Teutonic Campaign.I've destroyed the Order and vassalized Poland. Then in a lightning campaign involving 3 armies I occupy half of the HRE and vassalize them. Then my allies Novgorod and Denmark go to war, i drop Denmark due to our small borders. I then DOW the Mongols. This causes the HRE to break away again. I crush them and leave them with one province left then re-vassalize. Mongols are also vassalized. So now its Poland, Mongols, and HRE as vassals; Denmark neutral, Novgorod my long-time ally. In two turns Denmark attacks, Poland breaks free(with two provinces left) and blockades a port, HRE sieges a city and the Mongols attack as well. ALL 3 vassals betray me then Novgorod besieges two towns. Seriously retarded stuff going on.

**EP!anastasi** · February 10, 2012, 11:21 PM

Awww, why do you say that?

It was a deeply thought-out strategical combined attack in order to gain their freedom!

**Pounders** · February 10, 2012, 11:29 PM

They were unable to stop the Pagan tide and, in spite of their underhanded tactics were left shattered. Poland has a small town, HRE is dead. The offensive is getting started against Novgorod and when forces are prepared what's left of the Golden Horde will be nothing but a bad memory. My goal now is to leave the danes on some crappy island on the Baltic surrounded by Lithuanias Glorious Pagan Navy so they can live out their days regretting the horrible mistakes they've made.

**Sursion** · February 11, 2012, 01:00 AM

Sounds like a coordinated attack to try and stop the unstoppable machine you've become.

**Teutonic Warlord** · February 11, 2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Sursion

Sounds like a coordinated attack to try and stop the unstoppable machine you've become.

Actually, I read elsewhere that all the other factions in the Teutonic Campaign will gang up against a faction once it has a certain number of regions. This is USUALLY the player. I don't know how many regions causes this to happen though.

**Sursion** · February 11, 2012, 01:46 PM

That sounds like something a human would do. Good AI, in my opinion.

**Teutonic Warlord** · February 11, 2012, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Sursion

That sounds like something a human would do. Good AI, in my opinion.

It is really just a script. I have hit it multiple times, but I didn't know it was a script at the time, got mad, and deleted the saved games. I haven't had time to play a Teutonic Campaign (still recovering from the wounds I suffered to my back from the traitorous AI

), but I now plan on getting my back against at least one edge of the map so I don't suffer attacks from all sides.

In truth, I actually think the script is a little ridiculous because it will make all of your allies leave you/stab you in the back and ally with their much-hated enemies. On top of that, the AI factions' reputations drop to Untrustworthy or lower, but they spring back up in no time because of them all being allies. Meanwhile, your Reliable reputation drops to Mixed and Dubious because you lack allies and are at war with everyone. That makes a whole lot of sense.

I don't really understand scripting, or I would definitely change that for my game.

**tudor93** · February 12, 2012, 03:23 AM

Ok, here's a funny scenario, not necessarily bad: in my SS campaign I sent a diplomat to the HRE and offered them map info and 1k gold in exchange for map info from them, they declined and offered me 3,7k gold, what's up with that ?

**Sitalkes** · February 12, 2012, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by tudor93

Ok, here's a funny scenario, not necessarily bad: in my SS campaign I sent a diplomat to the HRE and offered them map info and 1k gold in exchange for map info from them, they declined and offered me 3,7k gold, what's up with that ?

I made a similar offer - map info for map info and was offered money for map info instead. Well I really wanted the enemy map info but the money was too good to refuse! I think I got the offer as my diplomat had a rating of 4 or 5 while the enemy diplomat had a rating of 0 and I was at war with him so the AI didn't want to give the map info at any price. I think this may be the first instance I have seen of a real difference being made by the diplomat rating.

**Adamat** · February 12, 2012, 03:55 AM

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This trolololol

**Diamond** · February 12, 2012, 09:46 AM

I actually like fighting the AI against long odds. I would call that an excellent game. Once, I was playing Victoria 2 as Sweden, and Prussia and her allies (every single German state except for the one I owned, which amounts to like 15 factions) AND Austria and her allies (like 10 of them) all declared war on me at once. Not cool, there goes my famous Swedish neutrality.

But for TW (SS), the AI blockaded my port, so I dealt with that, they offered peace, I accepted, and it happened again like 15 turns later. It wouldn't have been too out of the ordinary except that I was England and the AI was the Crusader States, and they were land locked...

**tudor93** · February 13, 2012, 02:24 PM

hehe, another one: I'm now playing SS as the Byzantines and I was at war with Poland, I offered them ceasefire+trade rights and the offer appeard as 'generous' so I demanded from them 5k gold, they declined and offered me ceasefire + trade rights + 10k gold

**Mhaedros** · February 13, 2012, 02:30 PM

Mine is probably when I played DLV as Crusader States, and was allied+military access with Armenia. I had one of my armies marching north for the byzzies, when they came to me with a diplomat and broke the alliance. The next turn they attacked my stack with only their faction leader and the faction heir. It was the easiest I've ever destroyed a faction

**Sursion** · February 13, 2012, 02:52 PM

I defended a city against 1000 enemies with only 3 depleted hobilar units (145 men total). It was one of the many occassions when I desperately wished campaign battles had a replay feature.

**complete noob:(** · February 13, 2012, 06:52 PM

I am currently on a vh/vh campaign, and 4 countries have a navy/army combo next to my cities. Every turn they blockade my ports, and armies siege my cities every turn. Each turn i sally out, defeat the besiegers, and i defeat the navy, then the other country offers ceasefire, i respond with demanding 3-4000 florins, and they accept. Next turn they do the same thing. So over a period of every two urns, i make an average of 10-14k florins

**EP!anastasi** · February 13, 2012, 10:46 PM

I have to admit that a lot of times the "AI" annoys me incredibly with its stupidity, but it often amuses me, too

**Teutonic Warlord** · February 13, 2012, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by EP!anastasi

I have to admit that a lot of times the "AI" annoys me incredibly with its stupidity, but it often amuses me, too

Ah, the stupid AIs of Total War games. Yesterday I was playing NTW, and I had killed their general with cannons. I had superior cannons (quality and quantity) while their cannons were stuck behind hills and just shooting the hills pointlessly. Meanwhile, the AI constantly rearranged their infantry within range of all my cannons.

My cannons just kept shooting while my army sat there for about 5 minutes. Sometimes it just seems like the AI wants to hand you the victory by letting you kill all its troops without any casualties yourself.

**Willowran** · February 14, 2012, 05:50 PM

Are you kidding? They must want to lose -it's the only explanation.

They do that in seiges. Defending a fortress. they'll walk over my first wall, and arrange themselves nice and slowly directlyin front of my second wall, meanwhile they're being pelted by my archers of doom, and my towers. They can sit there for quite a while before they bother to bring up the ram.

Funny dumb ai story: I was playing as some faction awhile ago against some other faction (i think this was in rome?). I would attack them, conquer a city, request (and recieve) a ceasefire. Repeat. I captured several cities before they wisened up.

**PrinceRufus2** · February 18, 2012, 04:48 PM

In my Denmark game, I was attacked by my former allies, the HRE, who had betrayed me many turns before. They decided to besiege Magdeburg, which I had made into a town, where I had two units of Spear Militia, one of which was my general, two units of Town Militia, two partial units of Peasant Archers, a unit of Mercenary Spearmen and a unit of Mercenary Crossbows. The HRE had much better and more men than I did, so I naturally thought I was going to get toasted. They began their assault, and the battle started like normal. They had a ladder and a ram, and on each was a unit of Dismounted Feudal Knights, the one on the ram being their general's unit. They demolished my spearmen on the walls, and my militia at the gates started to rout. Then they went for my archers and things got weird. They got my crossbows to rout, destroyed one of my archer units and got the other one to rout as well. By this point, the rest of my routed units that survived made it to the town square and reformed. Their general was busying himself killing my arches on the wall, but when they started routing, his unit just stopped, and he began shouting a bunch of orders to no avail. After that, his Armored Spearmen tried to kill my units in the town square, and instead got themselves killed and routed. After I made most of his units rout off the map, there was just the general's unit, made up of 9 men, and a unit of about 31 Armored Spearmen. The spearmen could have killed my men all themselves, but started doing the same thing the general's unit was doing, but closer to the town center so my 8 crossbowmen and 2 archers could hit them. For the rest of the battle, they just stood there getting pounded until the last 5 of them ran away. From there, I simply had to let the clock run out, assuring my victory.