USA snipers pose with nazi flag scandal.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...BTYDU_Oq1nqs9w


Marines Posed With Nazi SS Symbol in Afghanistan


By JULIE WATSON Associated Press
SAN DIEGO February 9, 2012 (AP)






The Marine Corps confirmed Thursday that one of its scout sniper teams in Afghanistan posed for a photograph in front of a flag with a logo resembling that of the notorious Nazi SS.
Use of the SS symbol is not acceptable, and the Marine Corps has addressed the issue, Lt. Col. Stewart Upton said in a statement. However, he did not specify what action was taken.
Upton said the Marines in the photograph on an Internet blog are no longer with the unit they were assigned to at the time. The picture was taken in September 2010 in Sangin province, Afghanistan.
The Military Religious Freedom Foundation in Washington says it is outraged by the photograph and wants a full investigation. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...vzvwMfd9R6UchA

[Kanaric]

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...BTYDU_Oq1nqs9w


Marines Posed With Nazi SS Symbol in Afghanistan


By JULIE WATSON Associated Press
SAN DIEGO February 9, 2012 (AP)






The Marine Corps confirmed Thursday that one of its scout sniper teams in Afghanistan posed for a photograph in front of a flag with a logo resembling that of the notorious Nazi SS.
Use of the SS symbol is not acceptable, and the Marine Corps has addressed the issue, Lt. Col. Stewart Upton said in a statement. However, he did not specify what action was taken.
Upton said the Marines in the photograph on an Internet blog are no longer with the unit they were assigned to at the time. The picture was taken in September 2010 in Sangin province, Afghanistan.
The Military Religious Freedom Foundation in Washington says it is outraged by the photograph and wants a full investigation.

So what's worse? This or uk troops committing pedophilia?


ONE sniper is a nazi holy !

[Bobz]

So what's worse? This or uk troops committing pedophilia?

Wait until he learns Prince Harry dressed up in a SS uniform.

Talk about a story over nothing.

[Primo]

ONE sniper is a nazi holy !

If he is a nazi, shouldn´t he shoot himself? But then I even heard of Jewish Nazis once.

[s.rwitt]

Oh ffs...

I know there's no way for you to have known this, but Marine Scout Snipers regularly use a symbol that looks like the "SS Lightning Bolts" to represent Scout Sniper. It's a tradition going back to Vietnam.

It freaked me out the first time I saw one tattooed on a sniper's shoulder, but it's not a Nazi thing. In fact racist tattoos, brands, etc is all completely illegal in the US military.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Oh ffs...

I know there's no way for you to have known this, but Marine Scout Snipers regularly use a symbol that looks like the "SS Lightning Bolts" to represent Scout Sniper.

It freaked me out the first time I saw one tattooed on a sniper's shoulder, but it's not a Nazi thing. In fact racist tattoos, brands, etc is all completely illegal in the US military.

Its even mentioned in the article:

Oliva said the investigation found that the SS symbol was meant to identify the Marines as scout snipers, not Nazis, but was nonetheless not acceptable.

Too bad there is no picture to confirm this.

The FOXNews link didnt even mention the above quote... which would of made a huge difference in their short article.

[mrmouth]

Its even mentioned in the article:

Don't let that stop people.

Do people have problems with 1% bikers using Nazi symbols in very much the same way? My first job after I left the USMC was fixing washing machines with a bunch of Outlaw bikers. Many were black, Jewish, Asian, etc, and still had SS symbols, etc. They had to work 9-5 because they were just released from federal prison. Not racists. Actually pretty good guys. I have a unique connection if ever needed, and it's worldwide.

[Stívarðr Reynitré]

[ash874]

Oh ffs...

I know there's no way for you to have known this, but Marine Scout Snipers regularly use a symbol that looks like the "SS Lightning Bolts" to represent Scout Sniper. It's a tradition going back to Vietnam.

It freaked me out the first time I saw one tattooed on a sniper's shoulder, but it's not a Nazi thing. In fact racist tattoos, brands, etc is all completely illegal in the US military.

i did not know that. intersting
still there are many ways to put two 's' letters together and the one they picked is exactly the same as the nazi symbol. now to hell with the jewish conection, lets just remember how many americans died fighting germany

[Sir Winston Churchill]

i did not know that. intersting
still there are many ways to put two 's' letters together and the one they picked is exactly the same as the nazi symbol. now to hell with the jewish conection, lets just remember how many americans died fighting germany

You are making the usual mistake of automatically assuming something is bad because bad men used it. Next thing you're telling me is all Germans from the 40's were evil. Buddhists throughout the world still use the swastika, you don't see any uproar or outcrys there.

[ash874]

You are making the usual mistake of automatically assuming something is bad because bad men used it. Next thing you're telling me is all Germans from the 40's were evil. Buddhists throughout the world still use the swastika, you don't see any uproar or outcrys there.

buddhists live in a different part of the world where the swastika does not raise the same connotations
it safe to assume that they dont have any intention to make reference to the nazis
on the other hand when someone from the west sees this symbol or other symbols like the 88 for example then he immedietly thinks about nazism and so if he still chooses to use it, then he can expect being thrown off the army

[Corporal Carrow]

Oh ffs...

I know there's no way for you to have known this, but Marine Scout Snipers regularly use a symbol that looks like the "SS Lightning Bolts" to represent Scout Sniper. It's a tradition going back to Vietnam.

It freaked me out the first time I saw one tattooed on a sniper's shoulder, but it's not a Nazi thing. In fact racist tattoos, brands, etc is all completely illegal in the US military.

QFT, brother. Scout Snipers have been using this for a long time. And it's not something the lower ranks do but aren't supposed to. Staff NCO's and officers are in on it too. This is a bunch of crybaby, oversensitive liberals trying to vilify the military. In fact, I knew a guy who was Jewish and was a scout sniper, and he had the double-lightning bolt SS tattooed on his right forearm. People choose to make a big deal about this because it furthers their leftist, anti-military agenda. The Scout Snipers have been using this symbol since Vietnam, and it is only just now an issue because of the political climate of the US right now. The liberals want to direct attention away from Obama's complete and utter failure as a President, so they are making a huge stink about things that they don't understand in the first place.

I think somebody mentioned something about pictures proving the Scout Snipers use this symbol regularly, well here ya go:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Obviously the one on the left is the one everyone is crying about, the other three are examples of other unit flags/patches/etc.

EDIT for a Grammar Nazi moment: When you refer to marines as a general concept or type of troops, you use a lower case m. But if you are referring in any way, shape, or form to United States Marines, it is proper to capitalize the M. I think this is also the case for British Royal Marines, but I'm not positive. Capitalizing 'Marines' is a generally accepted rule when referring to US Marines. I could go into a bunch of moto "because we're the best" , but I won't. Just pointing out the accepted convention for referring to my branch of service in writing. I'd appreciate it if y'all would abide by it.

[Heinz Guderian]

In fact, I knew a guy who was Jewish and was a scout sniper, and he had the double-lightning bolt SS tattooed on his right forearm.

was he a ****ing retard? I bet he doesnt go for a swim at a bar mitzvah party.

[YuriVII]

Oh ffs...

I know there's no way for you to have known this, but Marine Scout Snipers regularly use a symbol that looks like the "SS Lightning Bolts" to represent Scout Sniper. It's a tradition going back to Vietnam.

It freaked me out the first time I saw one tattooed on a sniper's shoulder, but it's not a Nazi thing. In fact racist tattoos, brands, etc is all completely illegal in the US military.

I'll buy that. I do guess the guy designing the flag in Vietnam-era must have had a poor historical understanding of military history though. You know a scout sniper in Vietnam should not have been so removed from WWII military history to not know about the SS of all things.

Whatever, my supply of outrage is limited and better spent on other things than this.

[Modestus]

I'll buy that. I do guess the guy designing the flag in Vietnam-era must have had a poor historical understanding of military history though. You know a scout sniper in Vietnam should not have been so removed from WWII military history to not know about the SS of all things.

Whatever, my supply of outrage is limited and better spent on other things than this.

Or he knew exactly what it was and it actually did not bother him one bit because as far as he was concerned he was out there shooting Gooks.

Time for the Scout Snipers to grow up and move on, pretending to be the Waffen SS for shock value is a bit childish and only makes them look like idiots. I can assure you a hundred years from now people will not associate that symbol with the Scout Snipers unless they kill a lot more people.

[Corporal Carrow]

Or he knew exactly what it was and it actually did not bother him one bit because as far as he was concerned he was out there shooting Gooks.

Time for the Scout Snipers to grow up and move on, pretending to be the Waffen SS for shock value is a bit childish and only makes them look like idiots. I can assure you a hundred years from now people will not associate that symbol with the Scout Snipers unless they kill a lot more people.

You assume that they are pretending to be Waffen SS. That's the whole point, they're doing no such thing. They are Scout Snipers. Scout Sniper = SS. Double lighting bolt runes look completely kickass. They tend to be associated with fear. The Scout Snipers are highly feared. Win. Why would you not use this symbol? Now, if they used a combination of multiple Waffen SS symbols or specific uniform insignia, I could see your point. But they don't. Just the SS runes. Therefore, your claim that they are "pretending to be Waffen SS" does not hold up and does not refute the various given arguments in favor of using the SS runes.

[Kanaric]

Oh ffs...

I know there's no way for you to have known this, but Marine Scout Snipers regularly use a symbol that looks like the "SS Lightning Bolts" to represent Scout Sniper.

It freaked me out the first time I saw one tattooed on a sniper's shoulder, but it's not a Nazi thing. In fact racist tattoos, brands, etc is all completely illegal in the US military.

Interesting I did not know that.

Maybe next that navy squadron that uses the jolly roger will be accused of advocating piracy

[s.rwitt]

Here's some more explanation from another forum:

http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=364548

I'm certain that I'll be posting this again in a couple pages.

[Kanaric]

Here's some more explanation from another forum:

http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=364548

I'm certain that I'll be posting this again in a couple pages.

If u have to I would just sig it

If he is a nazi, shouldn´t he shoot himself? But then I even heard of Jewish Nazis once.

Wait this person is jewish?

[Primo]

Wait this person is jewish?

No. At least I don´t know. But even an american is the enemy of a nazi.

But I did laugh for quite some time when I first heard of a jewish nazi.