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    (Reuters) - Iranian buyers have defaulted on payments for about 200,000 tonnes of rice from their top supplier India, exporters and rice millers said on Tuesday, a sign of the mounting pressure on Tehran from a new wave of Western sanctions.

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    The default prompted the head of the All India Rice Exporters' Association to call on members to stop rice exports to Iran based on credit, which would be a fresh blow to a country where imports of staple foods are already being hampered by sanctions.

    "It is a serious issue and we do not rule out further payment defaults by Iran," said Vijay Setia, the association's president.

    Indian sources said the Iranian buyers had defaulted on payments worth about $144 million for rice shipments under long-term supply deals. Iran shipped the cargoes from Indian ports in October and November. Most Indian rice exporters allow 90 days credit.

    Iran relies on imports for about 45 pct of its annual rice consumption of 2.9 million tonnes, according to U.S. Dept. of Agriculture data.

    In other supply disruptions, five deliveries of grain to Iran were diverted to new destinations because payments were held up, ship tracking data showed last week. Other cargoes are sitting offshore Iran because of difficulty with payments.

    Under a tightening grip of sanctions, the country of 74 million people is finding it increasingly difficult to repatriate the hard currency from its crude oil exports, its major foreign currency earner, that it needs to pay for shipments of food and other imports.

    A sharp drop in the value of the rial is adding to Iran's import costs and the financial sanctions make it difficult for traders in the country to channel import payments through unofficial routes involving middlemen based in Dubai.

    India is Iran's top rice supplier, accounting for some 70 percent of its annual requirement of 1-1.2 million tonnes of the grain, mainly the aromatic variety called Basmati.

    Traders and officials in Iran could not be immediately reached to comment.

    The United States slapped fresh sanctions on Tehran from the start of this year, targeting financial institutions that deal with the central bank, hoping to stem oil revenues and persuade Iran to abandon a suspected nuclear weapons program.

    U.S. President Barack Obama tightened those sanctions on Sunday, again targeting Iran's central bank and giving U.S. banks new powers to freeze assets linked to Tehran.

    The European Union has agreed to ban Iranian oil imports, a measure expected to take full effect within six months.

    SANCTIONS BITING?

    The rice defaults could be the latest sign that those sanctions are biting as Iranian importers find it increasingly difficult to settle payments.

    Ukraine's maize exports to Iran dropped 40 percent in January due to payment problems, Ukrainian consultancy ProAgro said last week.

    Ukrainian and European traders said they were no longer booking Ukraine grains shipments to Iran because of the payments difficulties, although talks were underway to save the market, the country's farm minister said.

    Five ships of grain have been diverted away from Iran to other destinations and about 400,000 tonnes of grains on at least 10 vessels have been held up outside Iranian ports because of payments problems, trade sources said last week.

    The Indian rice association's Setia said the group had approached the Indian government to recover their dues.

    "As part of efforts to minimize losses, we are asking our colleagues to avoid sending rice on credit," he said, adding they were not calling for a ban on exports to Iran.

    A government source acknowledged exporters had sought help.

    The rice default is the latest snag in India-Iran trade, which is heavily skewed towards Tehran.

    India is Iran's second-largest buyer of crude and it has struggled to settle payments worth some $11 billion annually after New Delhi scrapped a long-standing mechanism in 2010 under pressure from Washington.

    While New Delhi has switched to a payment conduit for its Iranian oil using a Turkish bank, Indian rice exporters have been using a loose, unofficial route involving a network of middlemen based in Dubai.

    The middlemen receive payments from Iranian importers in rial and pay Indian exporters in U.S. dollars. The consignments are sent directly from India to Iran.

    But Indian traders said the defaults started after the rial plunged over the past month, making previous purchases costlier for Iranian importers.

    The cost of transactions also went up for the Dubai middlemen as they use U.S. dollars to pay Indian exporters.

    On January 26, Iran announced an 8 percent devaluation of the rial and said it would enforce a single exchange rate, aiming to stamp out a black market where the dollar's value has soared due to fears over new sanctions imposed by the West.

    Indian traders said about 20 Iranian companies have failed to clear their dues during the past month.

    "It threatens to jeopardize the trade with them, hurting both India and Iran," Anil K. Mittal, chairman of KRBL Ltd, a leading Indian rice miller and exporter, told Reuters.

    "Due to sanctions on Iran, currently banks are not involved in payments to Indian rice suppliers. The payments are direct and at times on credit, making Indian exporters vulnerable to defaults. Indian traders must avoid supplying on credit."

    Setia said India should not send any more rice to Iran on credit, adding suppliers such as those in Thailand, Vietnam and Pakistan had already stopped doing so.

    However, the Thai Rice Exporters' Association said Thailand had stopped selling rice to Iran about a decade ago.

    Javed Agha, chairman of the Rice Exporters Association of Pakistan acknowledged that sanctions had made traders reluctant in both Pakistan and Iran to do deals.

    "Banking if a problem between Pakistan and Iran," he said. "There is no proper system."

    BOOSTING EXPORTS TO IRAN

    New Delhi will send a delegation to Iran this month to explore boosting exports to smooth use of the restricted rupee currency, which the two sides have agreed to use to settle 45 percent of India's $11 billion a year oil bill.

    But this would give Iran large amounts of a currency which is difficult to use for international trade.

    An Indian ministerial panel on food exports meets on Tuesday to review rice and sugar shipments. The issue of exports to Iran is not on the agenda, government officials said, seeking to knock down reports that the panel could discuss the possibility of boosting rice and wheat exports to Tehran.

    India, is expected to produce 102.75 million tonnes of rice in the crop year to June 2012, a farm ministry forecast said last month. Basmati makes up around 5 percent of India's total rice production.

    India's January 1 rice inventory at government warehouses was 29.8 million tonnes against a target of 11.8 million tonnes.

    China, Japan, India and South Korea, which together buy about half or Iran's 2.6 million barrels per day of crude exports, are under pressure from U.S. sanctions to cut back their purchases.

    China has already cut Iran imports in the first three months of this year over a pricing dispute and a flurry of U.S. diplomats have discussed the sanctions with Asian government officials.

    South Korea is paying Iran for crude in its local currency, but difficulty repatriating the funds under the weight of sanctions means won worth an estimated $5 billion has piled up South Korean banks. ($1=48.93 rupees)
    Well seems that the sanctions are biting hard. I wonder for how much time Iran can carry on its stance.

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    What stance is that then Principe?




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    That means Iran will basically turn into a N. Korea. The people will starve but the country will proudly keep 'resisting' the foreign super powers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel I Komnenos View Post
    That means Iran will basically turn into a N. Korea. The people will starve but the country will proudly keep 'resisting' the foreign super powers.
    Some people would rather starve than give up their independence. This was once the way of Sparta along time ago. Sparta wouldnt be ruled from Pasargadae. Tehran will not be ruled from Washington. They tried that for most of the last century. The people rose up.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    Some people would rather starve than give up their independence. This was once the way of Sparta along time ago. Sparta wouldnt be ruled from Pasargadae. Tehran will not be ruled from Washington. They tried that for most of the last century. The people rose up.
    The difference being the Spartans had a very simple diet. I don't know whether the Iranians can survive without rice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel I Komnenos View Post
    The difference being the Spartans had a very simple diet. I don't know whether the Iranians can survive without rice.
    What is more simple than rice Manuel? The Persians of today have that Spartan tradition. Bow down for no man. They are not synchophantic lackeys like the Gulf Arab States. President Ahmedinejad is Leonidas reborn. May the Gods protect him.




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    Iranian dishes include often rice but not always. Basmati is preferred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    The Persians of today have that Spartan tradition. Bow down for no man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    Some people would rather starve than give up their independence. This was once the way of Sparta along time ago. Sparta wouldnt be ruled from Pasargadae. Tehran will not be ruled from Washington. They tried that for most of the last century. The people rose up.
    Yep and it got them a crushing theocracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    Some people would rather starve than give up their independence. This was once the way of Sparta along time ago. Sparta wouldnt be ruled from Pasargadae. Tehran will not be ruled from Washington. They tried that for most of the last century. The people rose up.
    Yeah but the Spartans were a bunch of dicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    Yeah but the Spartans were a bunch of dicks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    Some people would rather starve than give up their independence. This was once the way of Sparta along time ago. Sparta wouldnt be ruled from Pasargadae. Tehran will not be ruled from Washington. They tried that for most of the last century. The people rose up.
    The people rose up only be crushed by their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motiv-8 View Post
    The people rose up only be crushed by their own.
    The uprising was a popular movement which encompassed the religious right, but also leftist secularists, the merchant classes, the intelligensia as well as a strong secular student movement. The consolidation of power by Khomenei and his supporters was only achieved in 1982 (three years after the revolution - or 5 years if you consider it started in 77). This was only achieved because the state was under threat of anihilation by Saddam egged on by the us and you guys. 8 years later, when Iran began to dominate the Iraqis and push towards Basra, the Americans decided it was time for Operation Praying Mantis, to show Tehran they werent going to allow Saddam to be defeated.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel I Komnenos View Post
    That means Iran will basically turn into a N. Korea. The people will starve but the country will proudly keep 'resisting' the foreign super powers.
    I'm curious to see if this is the case. I'm thinking the Iranian government is far more rational than N. Korea's. Eventually the people would act out if their food supplies were halted. Unlike N. Korea, they don't believe their leaders to be gods.

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    Direct barter - rice for oil, and then reselling it in India would seem the obvious solution.
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    Seems its not that Iran does not have money? The bank embargo is stopping them getting access to their money to pay for food.

    Now they may have to try to barter oil for food?

    Perhaps a Jihad on the Gulf States will be a fitting revenge.

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    another one of these lows in american foreign policy. better bomb the country to shreds right away instead of starving the place off for 10 years like iraq and then bomb them to shreds.
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    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn777 View Post
    another one of these lows in american foreign policy. better bomb the country in shreds right away instead of starving the place off for 10 years like iraq and then bomb them to shreds.
    Either way, you guarantee that the people will hate you and rally with the government.
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    doesnt matter when you outside the walls and china pays for the siege
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    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately

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    People will die during the siege.
    Classic siege castle medieval warfare..
    But guess who is eating the finest caviar and lobster and champaine??The leaders they will not go hungry...
    Dat fat north Korean dear leader died from gluttony and people are starving over there.I saw a show about his Japanese chef who used to go into Japan and buy the best food to cook for him.He loved alcohol also expensive alcohol and used to drink himself sober...
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