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    Icon1 Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.1 (Updated!)

    I have now uploaded the new version of my submod, 1.1:
    Some screenshots:
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    Gondor:



    Rohan:

    Eriador:


    Dwarves:

    HE:





    SE:



    List of all changes:

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    - added descriptions fort everything, i have added!
    - campaing starts 3010
    - scripted heirs/leaders (e.g. only Imrahil and his 3 sons can become the Prince of Dol Amroth, i did this also for the stewards, the Noldorin Highkings, the King under the Mountain and for the King of Rohan)
    - reworked family tree (Gondor, Rohan, Silvan/High Elves, Dwarves and Isengard)
    - added characters (Beregond, Damrod, Eomer, Erkenbrand, Hama, Elfhelm, Gildor, Galadriel (as leader), Rumil, Orophin, Arwen, Lurtz, Elphir, Erchirion, Erestor, Eowyn, Amrothos, ...)
    - added traits (e.g. Firstborn, Immortal, Isildur's heir, Noldo, Teler, Man, Nùmenorean Blood, Bloodline of the Stewards, Bloodline of Dol Amroth, Bloodline of Isildur, Falmari, Falathrim, Uruk, Orc, Pretend t othe noldin throne, Istari, Bloodline of Eorl the Young, Tawarwaith, Vanyar, ...)
    - added ancillaries (e.g. Highking of the Noldor; Durin's folk, House Finarfin, House of Fingolfin, House of Finrod, Staff of Gandalf the White, ...)
    - added events: Pretend to the Noldorian throne (Galadriel, Elrond) if Sauron got the one ring, Gandalf the White (Gondor) after 36 turns
    - disabled adoptions, marriages and getting of "new" children
    - reworked economy (-> more money)
    - adjusted some bodyguard of several generals (e.g. Haldir and his brother only have Homeguard warriors, Cirdan has Mithlond Nobles, Damrod has also rangers, Imrahil and his sons got Soldiers of Dol Amroth, mounted and dismounted, Erkenbrand got dismounted royal guards, gamling helmingas, ...)
    - adjusted special abilites of the generals
    - bigger armies (x3 available units except for mordor/isengard: x5 to strengthen them -> works very well in the campaign!)
    - Lothlorien is owned by High Elves now and Galadriel is their leader
    - adjusted campaign-script
    - adjusted win-conditions
    - very early barracks event
    - improved relationships between good facions/evil factions
    - increased number of recruitment slots
    - increased number of maximal available units to recruit
    - created different arrows to make the archers differs also in accuracy and not only in damage


    List of edited files (you may like to add my submod to your own submod-collection):

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    - data/sounds: events.dat; events.idx
    - data/text: campaign_description.txt; campaign_description.txt.strings; expanded.txt; expanded.txt.strings; export_ancillaries.txt; export_ancillaries.txt.strings; export_VnVs.txt; export_VnVs.txt.strings; historic_events.txt; historic_events.txt.strings; names.txt; names.txt.strings
    - data/ui: I replaces the pictures of the wives in the family trees, added some custom portraits ,added the eventpicture for the Noldorin king and added some ancillariesspictures
    - data/unit_models: battle_models
    - data/world/maps/base: descr_region.txt; map.rwm
    - data/world/maps/base/campaign/imperial_campaign: campaign_script.txt, descr_events.txt; descr_strat.txt; descr_win_conditions.txt; leader_pic_egypt.tga; leader_pic_milan.tga; map_egypt.tga; map_mongosl.tga; vc_egypt.tga; vc_mongosl.tga
    - data: descr_campaign_db.xml; descr_character.txt; descr_model_strat.txt; descr_names.txt; descr_projectile.txt; descr_regions.txt; descr_settlement_mechanics.xml; export_descr_ancillaries.txt; export_descr_buildings.txt; export_descr_character_traits.txt; export_descr_sounds_units_voice.txt; export_descr_units.txt


    Former campaign will be overwrited and the fellowship-campaign may does not work anymore.

    Installation: copy the folder "data" into the folder "Third_Age_3". That's it!

    Have fun!
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    Last edited by Ngugi; August 28, 2015 at 08:13 PM. Reason: reattached mod

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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    Awesome. Never liked adoption thing in the game. It just ruins the family tree. Also barracks even earlier is good. Rushing barracks in key settlements can now be rewarding. However, that makes AI get trolls and such faster, and kinda forces player to start investing into military earlier. Better economy should balance that. Also, what is meant by "bigger armies"? More soldiers in each unit or number of starting troops?

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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    Quote Originally Posted by ALHIMIK View Post
    Awesome. Never liked adoption thing in the game. It just ruins the family tree. Also barracks even earlier is good. Rushing barracks in key settlements can now be rewarding. However, that makes AI get trolls and such faster, and kinda forces player to start investing into military earlier. Better economy should balance that. Also, what is meant by "bigger armies"? More soldiers in each unit or number of starting troops?
    "bigger armies" means that you dont have to wait a long time to recruit units in the barracks again

    Which permission should i need? I just adjusted the script (I had to change some things because of Lorien, which now belongs to high elves)...

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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    did you got permissions you need? at least from KK i mean... i'm not sure we are allowed just change campaign_script and other text files as we want...

    i don't say you did anything wrong but you should check with Third age team...

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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    You only need permission for 2d and 3d art. Text editing usually not, but you can't copy scripts from others and use it in your submod.

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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    This looks interesting with the exception of the bigger armies which I think can make the ai stack spam even worse. Anyway +rep

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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    Sounds interesting, but why is Lorien owned by HE?
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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    I love epic campaigns, Finarfin. Can you give some more details? How big are the units now etc.?

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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaedros View Post
    Sounds interesting, but why is Lorien owned by HE?
    Lorien is now seperated from the Mirkwood-Elves because I think that the Galadhrims do fit better to the High Elves; Galadriel is a Noldor, is related to High Kings of the Noldor (Gil-Galad) and she leads Lorien... And the Elves in the Mirkwood are always described as different (strange) elves (e.g. in The Hobbit).

    There are still some things to be added/edited:

    - increase of max units available in barracks (maybe increased by one?)
    - bigger differences between the strength of good and bad archers (maybe different projectiles to differ at the accuracy?)
    - align the bodyguard and special abilites to each general
    - more general included in the family tree, that faction with a small family tree (dale, silvan elves, isengard, orcs) do not get desctroyed, because they do not have a faction leader anymore
    - Highking of the Noldor as an advanced trait of Pretend to the throne (in my High-Elves campaign Galadriel could not become Highking of the Noldor, because she had already 8 ancillaries )
    - adding of some missing descriptions (of new traits, ancillaries and events)

    And thanks for the reps!

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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Finarfin View Post
    - Lothlorien is owned by High Elves now and Galadriel is their leader
    Only Lothlorien? And what about Caras Galadhon?
    Will Galadriel be the faction leader of HE? (I wonder if it is possible)

    Quote Originally Posted by Finarfin View Post
    - more general included in the family tree, that faction with a small family tree (dale, silvan elves, isengard, orcs) do not get desctroyed, because they do not have a faction leader anymore
    Their upkeep will probably ruin the economy of small factions...
    Last edited by Qba; February 09, 2012 at 12:39 PM.
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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Qba View Post
    Only Lothlorien? And what about Caras Galadhon?
    Will Galadriel be the faction leader of HE? (I wonder if it is possible)

    Their upkeep will probably ruin the economy of small factions...
    Galadriel is the faction leader of HE now and everything works fine... im now at turn 80 with HE
    Lothlorien and Caras Galadhan are owned by HE of course.

    nope the economy works well, maybe i should decrease taxes a bit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finarfin View Post
    Galadriel is the faction leader of HE now and everything works fine... im now at turn 80 with HE
    Then who is her "wife"? I thought that only male characters can be faction leaders...
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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    How did you manage to make units bigger than it's possible BTW??? 250+3 officers+ captain is maximum
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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    He never said he did that. He just multiplied the recruitment times with 3 (or 5 in case of Mordor and Isengard) I think.

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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    seems like a nice sub.

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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    Oh, mu bad
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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    I still dont quite understand why Lothlorien is included in HE. All of the inhabitants of the forrest where silvan or sindar except Galadriel and maby Celeborn (some scourses say different things about the latter)
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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    Not fully so:
    The people of Lórien were even then [i.e. at the time of the loss of Amroth] much as they were at the end of the Third Age: Silvan Elves in origin, but ruled by princes of Sindarin descent (as was the realm of Thranduil in the northern parts of Mirkwood; though whether Thranduil and Amroth were akin is not now known.) They had however been much mingled with Noldor (of Sindarin speech), who passed through Moria after the destruction of Eregion by Sauron in the year 1697 of the Second Age.
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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    the game failed whenever I tried to play it...... when I clicked the third age icon and the screen went all black and jump back to the desktop.... you mod ain't working. Please try to fix it, it's a great idea to have a late campaign!

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    Default Re: Finarfin's Epic Late Campaign - Version 1.0

    Hey, I love what you did for this mod however, can you please make it compatible with "Baron Samedi's Gameplay Enhancing Submods Compilation for TATW 3.1" or Expanded Map Mod 3.1 for Vanilla 3.1 and Baron's 5.0 that'd be awesome and make the game way more enjoyable!!!!

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