When can you recruit gunpowerder units?

**The Useless Member** · February 06, 2012, 07:31 PM

It's over turn 175, I've already seem the video for gun powder. I can recruit monster Ribaults in the Mercenary tab, but can recruit them any where. I can't build Gunpowder buildings either.

Any help?

BTW: I'm playing as France.

**Judeman266** · February 06, 2012, 11:33 PM

The first cannon event happens between 1305 and 1330. After that you will be able to build cannon makers. If you look in \SS6.3\data and find the export_descr_buildings you can find out which event is to each late unit and then look in SS6.3\data\campaign\early\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign and find descr_events so you can know what turn the event occurs.

**Gogolometro** · February 06, 2012, 11:53 PM

I have a very bad news for you. Like France you must wait. Yes you will get great cavalry, scot archers and great cannons in 100 years or so. But gunners. Sorry, but you must wait. But HRE, Genova and Aragon will present you the pavise gunners on the field.

**Judeman266** · February 07, 2012, 12:01 AM

@Gogolometro

Also Spain, Portugal, Teutonic Order, Denmark, Norway, and Poland

As France your first gunpowder infantry doesn't appear till 1530 or turn 430 in an early campaign.

**k/t** · February 07, 2012, 12:20 AM

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=464736

**hanter** · February 07, 2012, 09:56 PM

Wow so late into the game.....so that means the english longbows will pretty much boss large parts of the game?

Are they really that effective? I read in other threads they seem to be like angles of death.

So a quick question, how do you use them effectively (I'm sure there's a thread some where) and conversely, how do you defend against them?