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    Libya's former ambassador to France has died less than 24 hours after being arrested by Tripoli-based militia, a US-based human rights group has said.

    Human Rights Watch said marks on Omar Brebesh's body suggest he died as a result of torture under detention.

    Mr Brebesh served under former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, who was toppled after a nine-month civil war last year.

    The country's interim government is under mounting pressure to prevent the abuse of thousands in custody.
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    I wonder, should NATO bomb NTC Libya again?
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    I'd have thought a UN peacekeeping mission is required here.

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    Maybe they were asking him where all the gold and cash went?? Theres billions hidden in the desert.

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    I wonder, should NATO bomb NTC Libya again?
    Why? A major member of NATO has secret prisons, kidnaps and renders people from far off lands, and officially sanctions and uses torture during detainment. And i havent even mentioned any conspiracy theories.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    Why? A major member of NATO has secret prisons, kidnaps and renders people from far off lands, and officially sanctions and uses torture during detainment. And i havent even mentioned any conspiracy theories.
    You mean... Israel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    You mean... Israel?
    I think Israel's supreme court officially banned the use of torture in detention in 2006ish. i think it was contested by the IDF. I dont know what happened after that.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    I think Israel's supreme court officially banned the use of torture in detention in 2006ish. i think it was contested by the IDF. I dont know what happened after that.
    I think the Supreme cout ultimately ruled that to use torture it must be officially approved in statute law. That might be the first ruling though.
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    Libyan diplomat Omar Brebesh dies 'under torture'
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    Default Re: Libyan diplomat Omar Brebesh dies 'under torture'

    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    You mean... Israel?
    Israel is not NATO.

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    Why? A major member of NATO has secret prisons, kidnaps and renders people from far off lands, and officially sanctions and uses torture during detainment. And i havent even mentioned any conspiracy theories.
    Canada.


    But as to the OP, the problem with the NTC is lack of control over the country, the problem with Gaddafi was his complete control. If the NTC develops into a fully functional national government and these sorts of things continue, then yes, they should receive international condemnation and possible sanctions.

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    Only hellheaven would suggest bombing a transitional council for an act committed by an independent militia said council has no control over. Only hellheaven would.

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    kinda like G-man's entire government was responsible for "viagra fuelled rapes" which apparently never occurred? the source appears to have come from the heady sexual frustrations of many qatari and arab league journalists

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    Quote Originally Posted by .L. View Post
    Israel is not NATO.
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    You have several decades of pent up anger, no real government, and irregular fighters. I'm surprised its not much worse than it is tbh.
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    You have several decades of pent up anger, no real government, and irregular fighters. I'm surprised its not much worse than it is tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    You have several decades of pent up anger, no real government, and irregular fighters. I'm surprised its not much worse than it is tbh.
    This. I don't get why people are shocked that Lybia hasn't been instanteously transformed into a liberal democracy where everything is fine forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    I don't get why people are shocked that Lybia hasn't been instanteously transformed into a liberal democracy where everything is fine forever.
    I don't get why people think that obliterating a country with war automatically means the country will be transformed into a liberal democracy, whether in 1 year, 5, 20 or 100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukonTrooper View Post
    I don't get why people think that obliterating a country with war automatically means the country will be transformed into a liberal democracy, whether in 1 year, 5, 20 or 100.
    Maybe some kind of bizarre Post WW2 Stress Disorder. A strange compuslion to frame every conflict in that context. Mutter something about 'appeasment' and you can get people riled up for a bit of bombing.

    Also Rwanda.

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    Remember Rwanda! Nevaaa again!!!!
    Funny thing is that UN accuse current Tutsi government committed genocide in Congo during First and Second Congo War, very nice you disgusting Rwanda.
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    So the Revolution has failed to bring democracy?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grouchio View Post
    So the Revolution has failed to bring democracy?
    Give it time. Libya's only had a few months since the revolution ended, and it's a country that had little in the way of a functional government beyond the power centred around Gadaffi. It will take years before we can really look back on whether or not it was successful.

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