Crash with Dwarves turn 93 as soon as hitting the "End of Turn" button

**oxxid** · February 02, 2012, 03:55 AM

And I must add that it crashes immediately after my turn is completly done and no units of mine are moving anymore on the compaign map.

Of course I checked everything I could (I got rid a long time ago of the Vista or Win 7 crashes), installs are clean, first crash after an Eriador campaign with no problems at all. This time I'm playing Dwarves.

You have to know I'm using Baron Samedi's Gameplay Enhancing Submods 5.0 with its bug fixer and ICS 1.2 for Baron Samedi's 5.0 + bugfixer as well as Gondor armor upgrades for BS 5.0, and they're all compatible, but I really don't know if they have anything to do with this crash as I don't know how to understand the different system logs I give you here.

Thank you for your time for this.

**Amonero** · February 02, 2012, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by oxxid

And I must add that it crashes immediately after my turn is completly done and no units of mine are moving anymore on the compaign map.

Of course I checked everything I could (I got rid a long time ago of the Vista or Win 7 crashes), installs are clean, first crash after an Eriador campaign with no problems at all. This time I'm playing Dwarves.

You have to know I'm using Baron Samedi's Gameplay Enhancing Submods 5.0 with its bug fixer and ICS 1.2 for Baron Samedi's 5.0 + bugfixer as well as Gondor armor upgrades for BS 5.0, and they're all compatible, but I really don't know if they have anything to do with this crash as I don't know how to understand the different system logs I give you here.

Thank you for your time for this.

Have you had any invasions yet?

**oxxid** · February 02, 2012, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by Amonero

Have you had any invasions yet?

Yes, 2 already, but not on me : Rohan and Gondor capitals have fallen and no invasion is in progress.

**oxxid** · February 03, 2012, 01:54 AM

Did anyone take a quick peek at the system log ? If so and there's nothing to be done, please tell me so that I can move on to another dwarf campaign.

**paradamed** · February 04, 2012, 04:41 PM

I took a look and I couldnt spot anything. Try disabling fow of war (toggle_fow) via console command anc check if any of the factions had a single last settlement or one family member alive. It may be the same bug I found. As soon as I hit end turn crash.

**Leomar** · February 05, 2012, 04:38 PM

And if you find out that a faction indeed has a single last settlement or one family member alive you may wan´t to try the workaround that helped me for Isengard:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=521415

**paradamed** · February 05, 2012, 10:01 PM

Weird I tried you method and I still had the crash so Im even more confused now that Im a 100% sure that it is not a faction destroyed crash.
This is the last lines of the log:
01:56:31.180 [game.script.counter] [trace] counter <Nan-Curunir_Local> = 0
01:56:31.180 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0004_Normalise> fired
01:56:31.191 [bink] [debug] [mods/Third_Age_3/data/fmv/faction/win_mordor.bik]Pause on
01:56:31.191 [bink] [debug] [mods/Third_Age_3/data/fmv/faction/win_mordor.bik]Pause on
01:56:31.380 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.
The last trigger fired is this Normalise stuff. I wonder what it is.
Anyway thanks for you help. Even though it didnt work for me I hope it works for oxxid.

**oxxid** · February 08, 2012, 09:34 AM

Ok, so I tried another Dwarves compaign, and had the same thing at around turn 118. Having kept the precedent crashing savegame, I compared the two, and found that in the two savegames there where two particularities : Hornburg was Rohan's capital and was besieged (on the first game "normally" besieged, on the second by crusaders), and that the crash occured precisely after loading these savegames as the first load of this game session. Let me explain myself more : I never had these crashes after hours of playing, only on savegames I loaded just after launching the game.
Still, one might think that after playing another campaign and THEN trying to reload these saves they would not crash, but once the crash is "set", it will always make itself blow up like the last OTAN missile on Sardinia Island (private joke).

Unless you do something that works, and I did something that worked for me : I used the counter-invasion army I had in the vicinity to destroy all opposition near Hornburg. I then cliked on "end of turn" and... Alleluia !! I could play again.

I'll see if such crashes are always related to this or if this was a mere coincidence... Like a major change in my Dwarf campaign configuration, as it crashed right after the dwarves end of turn. But seeing that right after the dwarves comes Rohan, and that usually they begin to "move" things around their capital city, it looks like it was really related to it, but who knows... And I'll keep a "few turns before" savegame before exiting the game from now on.

I hope it helps anyone who gets the same problem, and anyway be sure I'll check if I find anything else about it.

Oh and thanks Leomar, this time your method didn't help me but I'm sure it'll do once I seek and destroy Isengard