Wonders

**Aurelius Maximus** · February 08, 2006, 02:32 PM

Hey, wouldnt it be cool if they had wonders in M2TW but this time IN ACTUAL cities. That and unique-looking cities would make a great addition to the game. Think about it, watching ur trebuchets punishing Jerusalem's walls as u see the Dome of Rock behind them. Tearing up Constantinople's multiple walls as u see the Hagia Sofia in the background. That would be awesome and it'd be cool if these wonders also gave your civ bonuses, like Dome of the Rock could give the conqueror bonus loyalty from muslim-conquered territories and the Hagia Sofia the same but for christians. Something cool like that...

**Cayo_Julio_Cesar** · February 08, 2006, 02:41 PM

agree and dont forget Notre Dame and the other western/central churches specially Spanish wich also had many muslim wonders and Germany.

idk much abot Eastern europe ones,exept for Haga Sofia of corse.

**PROMETHEUS ts** · February 08, 2006, 04:47 PM

Am I wrong or the Pharos of Alexandria was the last of the seven wonders to survive untill medieval times?

**God-Emperor of Mankind** · February 08, 2006, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS ts

Am I wrong or the Pharos of Alexandria was the last of the seven wonders to survive untill medieval times?

Nope, you are not wrong.
It still existed at the start of the game and quite a while into the game as well.

**Spiff** · February 08, 2006, 04:58 PM

I think the thread refers to general architectural landmarks to make cities in themselves distinct, and les generic than in RTW. Which would be cool

**therussian** · February 08, 2006, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS ts

Am I wrong or the Pharos of Alexandria was the last of the seven wonders to survive untill medieval times?

Ever heard of the Pyramids at Giza?

Anyway, here is a list of possible wonders that I would like to see.

Dome of the Rock
The Kabaa
The Library of Alexandria.........actually no, that was destroyed.
Hagia Sophia
The Golden Gates of Vladimir
Notre Dame...
The Mosque of Cordoba
Westminster Abby

**VaeVictis** · February 08, 2006, 06:08 PM

The only way I would like wonders in the game is if they were done like in RTW.

I think being able to "build" wonders is a bad idea.

The thought of the Muslims building the Hagia Sophia in Mecca or the Christians building the Dome of the Rock in England kinda sits wrong with me.

Keep it like it was in RTW, that would make taking Jerusalem and Constantinople have more of a reward and appeal.

**John I Tzimisces** · February 08, 2006, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by therussian

Ever heard of the Pyramids at Giza?

Anyway, here is a list of possible wonders that I would like to see.

Dome of the Rock
The Kabaa
The Library of Alexandria.........actually no, that was destroyed.
Hagia Sophia
The Golden Gates of Vladimir
Notre Dame...
The Mosque of Cordoba
Westminster Abby

Holy Etchmiadzin ring a bell?

**Lumburg** · February 08, 2006, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Cayo_Julio_Cesar

agree and dont forget Notre Dame and the other western/central churches specially Spanish wich also had many muslim wonders and Germany.

idk much abot Eastern europe ones,exept for Haga Sofia of corse.

You forgot that the Egyptian Pyramids are the ONLY surviving Ancient 7 Wonders of the world.

i think that the wonders fit perfectly in RTW, because of the Timeline, but they obviously servered no purpose in the game, or atleast didnt give me enough reason for me to send my army to capture them.

i think M2TW without wonders would be fine by me.

**Chuffy** · February 09, 2006, 02:47 AM

I wouldn't mind wonders at all.

As long as they don't take up a huge space on the campmap and their effects are more subtle.

**H_man** · February 09, 2006, 12:19 PM

Wow, you guys haven't read any of the interviews with CA at all. Every single city is custom built by CA and integrated into a diverse landscape. (Cliffs, trees etc.) No more randomly generated, generic cities as in RTW. I'm not sure about wonders but I'm 99% positive that the cities will look amazing with multiple walls and special defensive specialties like sitting in a mountain pass.

**Proximus** · February 09, 2006, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by H_man

Wow, you guys haven't read any of the interviews with CA at all. Every single city is custom built by CA and integrated into a diverse landscape. (Cliffs, trees etc.) No more randomly generated, generic cities as in RTW. I'm not sure about wonders but I'm 99% positive that the cities will look amazing with multiple walls and special defensive specialties like sitting in a mountain pass.

Not EVERY single city, far from it. If we're lucky the capitals in the playable factions will be custom built.
I demand link.

**Ghoulem** · February 08, 2006, 04:55 PM

Wonders will be cool, but I hope they do something new with them. Maybe.. the ability.. to .. destroy them?!

Or implement them simply for the comedy.

Stonehenge
Pagan Conversion 0.000002 %

Notre Dame
Hunchback Population Growth 0.0000000001 %

**Zenith Darksea** · February 08, 2006, 05:18 PM

Certainly I think that the most important cities in the game (such as factions' starting capitals, or the really big/interesting metropoleis) should be individual and laid out in their correct way. That would make Constantinople or Rome so much more enjoyable to siege than 'generic large city'.

**Kscott** · February 08, 2006, 06:11 PM

I definatly want Jerusalem to have some kinda stuff in it, that makes it a holy site for Christians and Muslims. If Mecca is in, then they same...(for muslims)

**hellheaven1987** · February 08, 2006, 07:21 PM

I hope the game allow player to destory wonders. That makes me feel good when I'm playing barbarien.

**Cayo_Julio_Cesar** · February 08, 2006, 09:40 PM

Also the old St Peter Bassilica ,the Meca Mosque (or something like that idk much about there) and perhaps the tower of London

i agree to you Vae Victus ,they must be like in RTW but now there should be Much more of them i hated the fact that all Rome wanders were in the east mediterranean lol so the most powerfull factions of the game also had them.

and btw jerusalem itself sohuld be a wonder of have many of em ( temple walls, dome of the rock ,Knights templar, and the church of the holy grave )so theres a reason other than religious and crusader bonus based to make a base in the middle of the muslim natons.