Democrats, not republicans, are the real racists.

[Menelik_I]

Memphis talk radio host Thaddeus Matthews insulted and humiliated Republican congressional candidate Charlotte Bergmann during a recent interview. He ended the interview by saying, "get your stupid, ignorant ass up out of my studio." As Bergmann was leaving the studio she extended her hand to the host and Matthews refused to shake hands because he didn't want the "whiteness" to "rub off" on him.

http://www.breitbart.tv/hate-talk-ra...ck-republican/

I hear people talking about ''covert racism on the right'', ''racial code word'', and that ''Republicans don't agree with Obama because He is black'' ... but I have yet to see something has bigoted has this on the Republican side.

My contention is that Democrats, black and whites, are the real racists because they can't comprehend the idea of someone of color espousing Republican Ideas, they deny people of color of their moral agency by making them Democrats by default.

Painting the Republicans has ''racist'' is simply a Freudian projection to cover their own sentiments, and the fact that they have an unhealthy focus on race.

Agree, disagree, discuss ?

This lady, Charlotte Bergman, said it better than, so I think discussing her words is better :

Despite the efforts of the Democrat Party to defeat the Voting Rights Act of 1965, today they openly brag about protecting the rights of all people to vote for the candidate of their choice. However, it’s also quite clear that blacks are the only people in America who are publicly ridiculed should they not vote for candidates Democrats so authorize.

ETA:

Here is the video, NFSW.



Any Republican doing that to a black person would have his career ended ... do we need to touch the sexist part of it ?

[Kanaric]

I was watching a recent episode of Bill Maher and there was a gay republican on there that said that democrats pretend to be open to them out in the open but are not in private. He said at least someone on the republican side you know if they hate you

Also I knew a lot of Evergreen Park democrats in chicago who HATED blacks.

However in that case the republicans were just as bad. I don't think old people like minorities in general. I mean whenever any move into a neighborhood they always talk about how bad it is and how property values go down. Also they would always say that the town has turned ti when the only difference was more Mexicans. This was coming from people who are not racist.

Though can you blame them? In black neighborhoods the property values are poor and crime is high. Though that has more to do with poverty rates for them being on average higher than white people I can see how someone thinks its because of race even though I do not agree.

I think what your getting at is something that relates to this. From experience most democrats are racist as well as republicans too.

These people are less about their beliefs than selling a political product. They don't actually believe their "policy"

[Phier]

Though can you blame them? In black neighborhoods the property values are poor and crime is high. Though that has more to do with poverty rates for them being on average higher than white people I can see how someone thinks its because of race even though I do not agree."

Socioeconomic statistics being equal blacks have a higher crime rate than whites period. I think this is cultural more than economic.

[The spartan]

Socioeconomic statistics being equal blacks have a higher crime rate than whites period. I think this is cultural more than economic.

Uh, do you have any proof of this? How are you leveling socioeconomic status?

[Claudius Gothicus]

Socioeconomic statistics being equal blacks have a higher crime rate than whites period. I think this is cultural more than economic.

There's either one of two answers, a cultural propensity toward criminal activity among Urban African Americans or a social propensity toward criminal activity among Urban African Americans.

Or maybe there's a third answer that's derived from a combination of both, socially speaking a large percentage of Urban Blacks are stuck in the Lower-classes(small income, bad education and non-qualified jobs), all of these combined tend to lower the cultural constraints towards crime in a part of those communities.

And I mean ''Cultural constraints'' I mean that maybe those communities have experienced a certain level of disintegration and fragmentation. Or as the Boondocks put it:

(warning the N word is pronounced a couple of times)


To say that the problem comes from a cultural motivations alone, or poverty and ignorance alone would be reductionist.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Enough with that menelik. Republicans dont agree with Obama because Obama is a liberal, socialist lover. Though no one is going to deny some people in the Tea Party (the ultra conservatives in the Republican Party) oppose Obama because hes a black. I mean the Birthers ffs.

Democrats were racists, your right. But they switched parties after the Civil Rights movement and joined the Republicans. You see the Dems cleaned their own party up in the 60s, 70s.

And that looks like some shock jock who gets off on that sort of behavior. But your title is outrageous. Dems are not Racists. The Jock was a ing though.

His reactions were a bit rude but he was right at 3:24. Her answer was textbook. "Ill vote for legislation blah blah blah, More Police, blah blah blah".

He was right the solution to inner city crime problems isnt more police. More goons. You need to lift people out of poverty. Redevelop the areas. Provide activities for young adults. Its complicated but its seems throwing money at police stations seems to be easier than redeveloping slums and ghettos.

[Menelik_I]

His reactions were a bit rude but he was right at 3:24. Her answer was textbook. "Ill vote for legislation blah blah blah, More Police, blah blah blah".

No Black person can be tough on crime ? is that a white person thing ?

[Kanaric]

Enough with that menelik. Republicans dont agree with Obama because Obama is a liberal, socialist lover. Though no one is going to deny some people in the Tea Party (the ultra conservatives in the Republican Party) oppose Obama because hes a black. I mean the Birthers ffs.

Democrats were racists, your right. But they switched parties after the Civil Rights movement and joined the Republicans. You see the Dems cleaned their own party up in the 60s, 70s.

And that looks like some shock jock who gets off on that sort of behavior. But your title is outrageous. Dems are not Racists. The Jock was a ing though.

His reactions were a bit rude but he was right at 3:24. Her answer was textbook. "Ill vote for legislation blah blah blah, More Police, blah blah blah".

He was right the solution to inner city crime problems isnt more police. More goons. You need to lift people out of poverty. Redevelop the areas. Provide activities for young adults. Its complicated but its seems throwing money at police stations seems to be easier than redeveloping slums and ghettos.

I would bet they are closet racists. I have had shocking revelations from so called "liberals".

I wish I had a clip from that guy on bill Maher it described it perfectly.....

[Phier]

Democrats were racists, your right. But they switched parties after the Civil Rights movement and joined the Republicans. You see the Dems cleaned their own party up in the 60s, 70s.

By switching to the pro-integration party? Come now be reasonable.

What they did was realize that the welfare state would be their ticket to vote plantations. Buy off the leadership, promise free money, get votes.

[MathiasOfAthens]

No Black person can be tough on crime ? is that a white person thing ?

Thats not what I meant. But being tough on crime doesnt really eliminate crime thats caused by poverty.

Check out the Recidivism rates. We lock people up for years thinking if we are tough they wont ever rob that store again. But shockingly

Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%).

So maybe we are not tough enough. Perhaps we should just give everyone Life for the smallest of crimes? No thats not it. Has to be something else making them criminals. I got it. When these folks come out of Jail they have a record and they dont look really attractive to jobs, so in no time they are reoffending.

So why is more police the answer to a problem that has nothing to do with a lack of policemen?

By switching to the pro-integration party? Come now be reasonable.

What they did was realize that the welfare state would be their ticket to vote plantations. Buy off the leadership, promise free money, get votes.

Yeah, I dont think that is quite it.

In Pennsyvania the max a mother of two can receive is $408 dollars a month. Good luck riding the luxury train with that. And the limit on how long one can receive assistance is 5 years.

2009 statistics from the National Poverty Center at the University of Michigan show:

25.8% of blacks and 25.3% of Hispanics below the poverty line, compared to 12.5% of Asians and only 9.4% of whites.

You think there might be a correlation between crime and poverty if the largest offenders are living in such deep poverty?

Anyway, there may be some racists in the Democratic Party but your dear leader is a sexist, racist and an .

"She has eighty names, thirty addresses, twelve Social Security cards and is collecting veteran's benefits on four non-existing deceased husbands. And she is collecting Social Security on her cards. She's got Medicaid, getting food stamps, and she is collecting welfare under each of her names. Her tax-free cash income is over $150,000."

Ronald Reagan - Welfare queen quote, 1976. Referring to one woman in particular but managed to somehow attack everyone on welfare at the same time.

[Matthias]

There is no political party without racists or bigots. But please get the terminology right. The video wasn't racist. If anything, it was bigoted. I doubt the guy believes in racial superiority etc. Bigotry is the main problem now, and it is born out of stereotypes and ignorance.

For out and out racists, the Republican Party is currently the place to be for most. But bigots can find a home in either party. There aren't that many racists anymore. Hell, even some of the white power groups don't believe in racial superiority anymore. Now it's all about the bigotry, which isn't based on an easily disproven premise like racism is.

If you want to know which party uses their bases's bigotry to their advantage more, that would easily be the Republicans. The code words getting easier to pick out for most people. There has been a lot of it in the Republican primary already. The whole birther issue proved what sort of a gold mine bigotry still is for Republicans, even their leaders were using it as a way to rile up the base. I can't think of many comparable instances on the Democratic side. Not that there isn't bigotry there, but it's not as much of an election strategy. Republicans made the fanning of bigotry an election strategy decades ago with the "Southern Strategy". It's not limited to just race either of course. Homosexuals are also good scapegoats, as are atheists. I mean, Gingrich out and out said that atheists can't be trusted with power because they have no values, a purely bigoted statement, in a debate and he got a nice round of applause. Encouraging such ignorance is a political tactic that the Republicans have mastered.

[Menelik_I]

There is no political party without racists or bigots. But please get the terminology right. The video wasn't racist. If anything, it was bigoted. I doubt the guy believes in racial superiority etc. Bigotry is the main problem now, and it is born out of stereotypes and ignorance.

For out and out racists, the Republican Party is currently the place to be for most. But bigots can find a home in either party. There aren't that many racists anymore. Hell, even some of the white power groups don't believe in racial superiority anymore. Now it's all about the bigotry, which isn't based on an easily disproven premise like racism is.

If you want to know which party uses their bases's bigotry to their advantage more, that would easily be the Republicans. The code words getting easier to pick out for most people. There has been a lot of it in the Republican primary already. The whole birther issue proved what sort of a gold mine bigotry still is for Republicans, even their leaders were using it as a way to rile up the base. I can't think of many comparable instances on the Democratic side. Not that there isn't bigotry there, but it's not as much of an election strategy. Republicans made the fanning of bigotry an election strategy decades ago with the "Southern Strategy". It's not limited to just race either of course. Homosexuals are also good scapegoats, as are atheists. I mean, Gingrich out and out said that atheists can't be trusted with power because they have no values, a purely bigoted statement, in a debate and he got a nice round of applause. Encouraging such ignorance is a political tactic that the Republicans have mastered.

Saying that someone is a ''token black'' is a racism, since you judge people by the color of their skin : black = Democrats, if black = Republican then Uncle Tom Token Black.

[PointOfViewGun]

So, one rude radio host man makes the whole Democrats racists?

[Menelik_I]

So, one rude radio host man makes the whole Democrats racists?

The reaction to it is more informative, if it were a Republican host doing it to a female Black Democrat He would had his career terminated, but somehow it is no big deal when you do it to someone with a R.

Imo bigotry and racism are so similar the words should be considered interchangeable. Or we need some newspeak word that takes care of both.

One is prejudice towards ethnicities the other towards.any other group of people

I think that having preconceived political believes based on race - Black can only be Democrats- is racism.

When in doubt I use Martin Luther King words : Judge not a man by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.

[PointOfViewGun]

The reaction to it is more informative, if it were a Republican host doing it to a female Black Democrat He would had his career terminated, but somehow it is no big deal when you do it to someone with a R.

Do you know if the host didn't lose his job?
Do you know of any other case where a Democrat host didn't lose his job doing something like this?

[Menelik_I]

Do you know if the host didn't lose his job?
Do you know of any other case where a Democrat host didn't lose his job doing something like this?

You mean like this :

[PointOfViewGun]

You mean like this :

What part of Suzanne Malveaux's words are racist?

[Ex Tenebris Lux]

So, one rude radio host man makes the whole Democrats racists?

If you vote GOP, then yes, yes he does.



Why do people make threads trying to convince people of a viewpoint on religion or politics when they sould know full well they won't be changing anyone's mind one way or the other?

So the OP makes a thread telling people that the Democrat party is racist and the Republican party isn't (a strawman but let's keep it for consistency). All the Democrats are going to say NO and all the Republicans are going to say YES, meanwhile rational people who point out that racism is sadly expressed by people in any group are going to be ignored or trounced.

[Prosaic Visitant]

All the Democrats are going to say NO and all the Republicans are going to say YES, meanwhile rational people who point out that racism is sadly expressed by people in any group are going to be ignored or trounced.

Actually, if anyone's been trounced it's the ones claiming one side is not racist and the other side is.

[Ex Tenebris Lux]

Actually, if anyone's been trounced it's the ones claiming one side is not racist and the other side is.

well score one for realism then! guess things have changed for the better lol