NGOs and revolutions in recent history

**Kitsunegari** · January 31, 2012, 07:59 PM

So we've seen many recent mass movements in Eastern Europe and the Middle East that have been sparked by Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) with funding from Western sources, mainly from George Soros' myriad investments; Otpor in Serbia was kind of the blueprint followed by Rose Revolution in Georgia and Orange revolution in Ukraine, and now what's happening in the Middle East. What i'm wondering is are people in the affected countries ok with this since some repugnant regimes have been removed as a result or do they see it as interference in their affairs? Personally i'm very concerned about the global advancement of the Soros agenda even if there have been some positive results.

**Menelik_I** · January 31, 2012, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Kitsunegari

So we've seen many recent mass movements in Eastern Europe and the Middle East that have been sparked by Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) with funding from Western sources, mainly from George Soros' myriad investments; Otpor in Serbia was kind of the blueprint followed by Rose Revolution in Georgia and Orange revolution in Ukraine, and now what's happening in the Middle East. What i'm wondering is are people in the affected countries ok with this since some repugnant regimes have been removed as a result or do they see it as interference in their affairs? Personally i'm very concerned about the global advancement of the Soros agenda even if there have been some positive results.

Simple soluion :

1- become gazilionaire
2- do rival organization.

**Kitsunegari** · January 31, 2012, 08:11 PM

I'm on my way, $135 in my checking account last time i checked.

Also, 6,000th post!

**Menelik_I** · January 31, 2012, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Kitsunegari

I'm on my way, $135 in my checking account last time i checked.

Originally Posted by Kitsunegari

Also, 6,000th post!

If only I could monetize it

**selder** · January 31, 2012, 08:48 PM

How many people in the "affected countries" even know what is going on? I think it works for the short term but as you see in Egypt and Libya its what happens after that really counts. It seems no one knows how the people will react in the long term. It is interesting to think what will our enemies learn from all this, how stable are we really?

**Condottiere 40K** · January 31, 2012, 09:00 PM

After a period of instability, people gravitate towards the well-established.

The Muslim Brotherhood has been embedded for decades, and there probably are similar types of organizations in most countries, which brings us to Somalia - perhaps the population were unrepentant internet pirates?

**Heinz Guderian** · January 31, 2012, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by Kitsunegari

Personally i'm very concerned about the global advancement of the Soros agenda even if there have been some positive results.

what exactly is the Soros agenda?

**Dr. Oza** · January 31, 2012, 10:54 PM

Interesting, is there a link or something with info on this?

what exactly is the Soros agenda?

lol, promoting human rights and progressive causes.. heaven forbid!

**~~Exarch~~** · January 31, 2012, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. Oza

Interesting, is there a link or something with info on this?

lol, promoting human rights and progressive causes.. heaven forbid!

so they say;

doubt much if the tortured libyans are seeing much human rights progress, especially with their country wracked by civil war and prey to foreign interests

**Armenum** · February 01, 2012, 07:51 AM

The Soros like NGOs were mainly active in the colour revolutions, which were anti-Russian, pro-Western in nature. Many of them actually backfired. I can't say if they have been that active in the Arab Spring, I would say Islamic groups such as Muslim Brotherhood have been much more active in opposition, the trend one sees is less secular, more religious groups being active in these movements.

**hellheaven1987** · February 01, 2012, 08:30 AM

It is not first time government uses NGOs to fulfill its own purpose; back in 1930s various NGOs were used as informal (and mos time only) communication between Nationalist China and US/UK.

**Sigma** · February 01, 2012, 10:06 AM

I always thought Soros liked collapsing economies and profiting off of it?

**Condottiere 40K** · February 01, 2012, 10:10 AM

I think he's an Anglophobe.

**Kitsunegari** · February 01, 2012, 06:17 PM

what exactly is the Soros agenda?

This:

I always thought Soros liked collapsing economies and profiting off of it?

That and he is a fervent globalist and cultural leftist.

The Soros like NGOs were mainly active in the colour revolutions, which were anti-Russian, pro-Western in nature. Many of them actually backfired. I can't say if they have been that active in the Arab Spring, I would say Islamic groups such as Muslim Brotherhood have been much more active in opposition, the trend one sees is less secular, more religious groups being active in these movements.

Yeah if you're Armenian you should be familiar with that. And yes the Orange and Rose Revolutions aren't looking so great now. the current "Snowy" or "White" Revolution that seems to have failed in Russia was the latest. There were Serbian nationals detained when the Egyptian military occupied the NGO offices, which suggest Otpor veterans were involved. OSI (Soros) worked with seemingly neocon National Endowment for Democracy and International Republican Institute in both Egypt and Tunisia. As for the Muslim Brotherhood, i don't think someone as slimy as Soros would be above funding them achieve short-term goals. It's a really convoluted situation, with the US even supporting the insurrection against its official ally Mubarak.

**Menelik_I** · February 01, 2012, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Kitsunegari

It's a really convoluted situation, with the US even supporting the insurrection against its official ally Mubarak.

This is why I believe that international politics is not a matter of country vs country, but competing transnational organization and political networks.

**Armenum** · February 01, 2012, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Kitsunegari

Yeah if you're Armenian you should be familiar with that. And yes the Orange and Rose Revolutions aren't looking so great now. the current "Snowy" or "White" Revolution that seems to have failed in Russia was the latest. There were Serbian nationals detained when the Egyptian military occupied the NGO offices, which suggest Otpor veterans were involved. OSI (Soros) worked with seemingly neocon National Endowment for Democracy and International Republican Institute in both Egypt and Tunisia. As for the Muslim Brotherhood, i don't think someone as slimy as Soros would be above funding them achieve short-term goals. It's a really convoluted situation, with the US even supporting the insurrection against its official ally Mubarak.

Trust me, the huge US embassy in Armenia is actively (and covertly) working to have an Armenian Rose revolution. Though such efforts are futile given the strategic situation right now. I'm assuming in Egypt's case there maybe be some Soros NGOs though they run counter seemingly to the US neo-cons that were good with Mubarak. It's get a little tricky in that region.