Breaking down of 'Occupy' into more specific movements

[Voodo chile]

From what i am seeing, the occupy movement is pretty much dead with camps being dispersed. This is true regarding the New Zealand occupy movement.

And i guess it was inevitable seeing as the majority of the people in it were the homeless and your average New Zealander wasn't really a heavy participant. It was viewed as a bunch of homeless and rebel Maoris, but not a movement involving the masses.

I look on the local news and find a protest in action in Christchurch.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6345...rotest-council

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/clos...-rally-4708914

This appears to have the support of the people. The occupy movement down here in Chch would have got maybe 100 max initially.
This protest is calling for a massive reform in the city council and it looks like there will be a snap election held sometime soon if the protesters get their ways.

From what i gather the story behind this is a member of the city council, Tony Marryatt getting a $68000 pay-rise, bring it up over half a million, which by the way was rejected after much controversy but it is now revealed that he was agreed to hold on to half of that money. As-well as a really dysfunctional council I am not sure if it is as simple as this but this is all i can really say at the moment. I'm sure this will be top story on tonight's news.
I might go check it out if the protests are still on

Anyway, it seems as if this is a more specific form of the occupy movement.

[Denny Crane!]

It was a disparate group full of teenage angst and it dissipated as anyone with any sense knew it would. The breaking up into more specific movements is more of a resetting to original formats as pressure groups that drifted in drift out and become even less relevant.

[Heathen Hammer]

It was a disparate group full of teenage angst and it dissipated as anyone with any sense knew it would. The breaking up into more specific movements is more of a resetting to original formats as pressure groups that drifted in drift out and become even less relevant.

Did Bill O'reily tell you that? Protesters varied in their background and occupations, from university and college students to doctors, government workers, military servicemen, etc. It broke up mostly because of large-scale police brutality that was used against the peaceful protesters. Nobody wants large-scale protests amidst the time when you are trying to support protests in inconvenient regimes.

[Menelik_I]

Did Bill O'reily tell you that? Protesters varied in their background and occupations, from university and college students to doctors, government workers, military servicemen, etc. It broke up mostly because of large-scale police brutality that was used against the peaceful protesters. Nobody wants large-scale protests amidst the time when you are trying to support protests in inconvenient regimes.

Great fantasy there m8.

The OWS was always Western kids envy towards the apparent success of the OWS, and it had never a vision or objective to achieve, being mostly a collection of leftist outfits and revolution mongering. It only had a ''process'' of assemblies and nothing more.

There was never a violent crackdown on them.

[Heathen Hammer]

Great fantasy there m8.

The OWS was always Western kids envy towards the apparent success of the OWS, and it had never a vision or objective to achieve, being mostly a collection of leftist outfits and revolution mongering. It only had a ''process'' of assemblies and nothing more.

There was never a violent crackdown on them.

Your argument doesn't make any sense. Not all protesters were 'leftist" unless anybody who protests against policies that only benefit rich financial minority automatically becomes a "leftist revolution monger". And there was a large-scale accounts of police brutally attacking protesters.

[Menelik_I]

Your argument doesn't make any sense. Not all protesters were 'leftist" unless anybody who protests against policies that only benefit rich financial minority automatically becomes a "leftist revolution monger". And there was a large-scale accounts of police brutally attacking protesters.

C'me on, the whole OWS started after the Arab Spring in Egypt and Tunisia, which is completly unrelated to anything happening in western countries except envy of young westerners : The Arab are having a revolution, lets have one too

Not all protesters were leftists, but the bulk of them were, you cannot deny.

Police brutalization ??

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[selder]

I disagree with your idea that the occupy movement was driven by envy, it seemedto be more reactionary to the recession and political decisions that were made during the financial crisis. The whole wealth inequality thing.

[spanish_emperor]

I disagree with your idea that the occupy movement was driven by envy, it seemedto be more reactionary to the recession and political decisions that were made during the financial crisis. The whole wealth inequality thing.

ding ding, get this man a prize

[Menelik_I]

I disagree with your idea that the occupy movement was driven by envy, it seemedto be more reactionary to the recession and political decisions that were made during the financial crisis. The whole wealth inequality thing.

So how do you explain that it have arisen only after the Arab spring, and the numerous references from OWS people to their ''brothers'' in the Arab spring ?

Please tell me what event triggered the OWS movement if not envy ?

Other populist movements have at least clear cut events which triggers them : Obamacare for Tea Party, Bouzize putting himself on fire for Tunisia revolution and Egypt, fall of Ben Ali for Libya.

These specific events have put fire to fuel that was building up, what set off OWS, answer please.

[spanish_emperor]

So how do you explain that it have arisen only after the Arab spring, and the numerous references from OWS people to their ''brothers'' in the Arab spring ?

Please tell me what event triggered the OWS movement if not envy ?

Other populist movements have at least clear cut events which triggers them : Obamacare for Tea Party, Bouzize putting himself on fire for Tunisia revolution and Egypt, fall of Ben Ali for Libya.

These specific events have put fire to fuel that was building up, what set off OWS, answer please.

What triggered th Arab spring? Are you one of those gullible individuals who believe that the arabs suddenly awoke from their slumber, realized they were living in an undemocratic country and decided to stage a revolution?
The arab spring emerged because of the economic condition around the world. Unemployment, high food prices, etc.

And no, Bouzize putting himself on fire did not start the Tunisian revolution, it helped promote it. There have been countless of other people who have set themselves on fire prior the revolution and no massive protests occured. Even in countries where the arab spring did not take place people set themselves on fire but nothing happened (even developed countries).

[selder]

Obamacare for Tea Party

that is hysterical, obamacare now that is something to fight about

And no, Bouzize putting himself on fire did not start the Tunisian revolution, it helped promote it. There have been countless of other people who have set themselves on fire prior the revolution and no massive protests occured.

maybe he should have applied for a permit for that as well.

[Menelik_I]

What triggered th Arab spring? Are you one of those gullible individuals who believe that the arabs suddenly awoke from their slumber, realized they were living in an undemocratic country and decided to stage a revolution?
The arab spring emerged because of the economic condition around the world. Unemployment, high food prices, etc.

And no, Bouzize putting himself on fire did not start the Tunisian revolution, it helped promote it. There have been countless of other people who have set themselves on fire prior the revolution and no massive protests occured. Even in countries where the arab spring did not take place people set themselves on fire but nothing happened (even developed countries).

name calling already ? TWC Classic.

Bouzize putting himself on fire did trigger the revolution, since his tragedy highlighted and condensed all that was wrong with Tunisia. Many Tunisians related to his tragedy because it was their own, and it made their grievances build upon the years even more. Ben Ali have been selling the idea that Tunisian should accept his rule in exchange for growth and jobs, just has He was blatantly stealing from people left and right, people grievances against him were high and the tragedy of Bouzizi matched it by mere fate, but did trigger the revolution.

Before that Ben Ali had the opposition running scarred.

[spanish_emperor]

name calling already ? TWC Classic.

Bouzize putting himself on fire did trigger the revolution, since his tragedy highlighted and condensed all that was wrong with Tunisia. Many Tunisians related to his tragedy because it was their own, and it made their grievances build upon the years even more. Ben Ali have been selling the idea that Tunisian should accept his rule in exchange for growth and jobs, just has He was blatantly stealing from people left and right, people grievances against him were high and the tragedy of Bouzizi matched it by mere fate, but did trigger the revolution.

Before that Ben Ali had the opposition running scarred.

I've told you, these revolutions are called so by the west when they started off as protests. It became a revolution when the protesters suddenly felt they could overthrow the government.

A man putting himself on fire does not trigger a revolution as demonstrated by the numerous identical incidents in other countries.

Why must you claim these revolutions emerged from the desire for democracy when all evidence points to economic difficulties. All the protests around the world have the same reason. You may call the London riots thugs rebelling against the social order, the Greeks anarchists not accepting their cuts, Arabs wishing democracy, OWS being communists, etc. Even Israel had huge protests because of the economic difficulties or were they just envious of their Muslim neighbors as well?

[selder]

could someone please tell me what this guy is talking about? what name calling? I am insulted that you would make such ungrounded accusations against me.

[Menelik_I]

could someone please tell me what this guy is talking about? what name calling? I am insulted that you would make such ungrounded accusations against me.

The Marie Antoinette bit, don't play blind.

[selder]

I was refering to your avatar, as in you used margaret thatcher while arguing Scottish issues. I recomended maybe using marie antoinette since you have an obviouse problem with people protesting, but if the shoe fits.

[Menelik_I]

I was refering to your avatar, as in you used margaret thatcher while arguing Scottish issues. I recomended maybe using marie antoinette since you have an obviouse problem with people protesting, but if the shoe fits.

beside a pathetic issue at name calling and internet grade insulting, such has calling people Marie Antoinette, do you have any substantial point ?

[selder]

such has calling people Marie Antoinette, do you have any substantial point ?

I never called anyone that and demand an apology, as for points I think I already made them

[Kitsunegari]

They had to get back to Micky D's, rent isn't going to pay itself lol.

[Denny Crane!]

Did Bill O'reily tell you that? Protesters varied in their background and occupations, from university and college students to doctors, government workers, military servicemen, etc. It broke up mostly because of large-scale police brutality that was used against the peaceful protesters. Nobody wants large-scale protests amidst the time when you are trying to support protests in inconvenient regimes.

Well considering I don't get Bill O'Reilly in my country no. I didn't say that the varied idiots taking part in it weren't from varied backgrounds hence the word disparate.

Start reading my posts with a dictionary mate, it will save me having to make pointless retorts to you.

They had to get back to Micky D's, rent isn't going to pay itself lol.

Their iPads ran out of battery.