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    Default The Coriolis effect

    Hey can someone explain to me how the Coriolis effect works?

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    If a surface is rotating, an object travelling in a straight line overtop of that surface will appear to follow a curved path to an observer standing on the rotating surface.

    It is a pretty simple concept, but the implication on the earths surface is counter-intuitive because we like to think of the surface of the Earth as motionless when it is not. Belows is an illustration of what would happen if you shot a cannon ball at the North Pole straight south. It will not travel straight south, but rather seems ot follow a curved path because the surface of the earth is rotating beneath it.


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    Wow thanks a lot +rep for the good explanation!

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    Default Re: The Coriolis effect

    I've seen this on CoD... Does the Coriolis effect affect significantly a sniper shot from 800m?

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    Default Re: The Coriolis effect

    Quote Originally Posted by mindOverdrive View Post
    I've seen this on CoD... Does the Coriolis effect affect significantly a sniper shot from 800m?
    When you are trying to hit a target that is only .3m across, yes, it can. Not tremendously so, but if you are trying to be very precise yes you would calculate that out.
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    I've seen this on CoD... Does the Coriolis effect affect significantly a sniper shot from 800m?
    Imma put some numbers to it. But at the outset, I can see that your latitude is going to make a huge difference. If you shot N-S equal distance across the equator, there would actually be no effect. The maximum effect is shooting across the north or south pole.

    (and your proper use of effect and affect has no place in a science forum.)

    Some quick and dirty results...

    Assuming an N-S 800m shot, with a bullet traveling at 800m/s (something like a 7.62 NATO)

    Over top of either pole.................................5.8cm off
    Halfway between a pole and the equator..... 4.1cm off
    Over top of the equator.................................0cm off

    It varies as as the sine of latitude and the cosine of shot angle off of true north.
    Last edited by Sphere; January 31, 2012 at 09:34 PM.

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    One might add that the most significant effect of the Coriolis force is not on the ballistics of sniper weapons, but on global weather. It makes the air in low pressure systems turn counter-clockwise, or clockwise in high-pressure systems (Northern Hemisphere).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
    Imma put some numbers to it. But at the outset, I can see that your latitude is going to make a huge difference. If you shot N-S equal distance across the equator, there would actually be no effect. The maximum effect is shooting across the north or south pole.

    (and your proper use of effect and affect has no place in a science forum.)

    Some quick and dirty results...

    Assuming an N-S 800m shot, with a bullet traveling at 800m/s (something like a 7.62 NATO)

    Over top of either pole.................................5.8cm off
    Halfway between a pole and the equator..... 4.1cm off
    Over top of the equator.................................0cm off

    It varies as as the sine of latitude and the cosine of shot angle off of true north.

    But all the air around the bullet already is moving Eastwards (due to the Earth's rotation) so the bullet should be carried along with it. Irelanddeb: The Airplanes can correct their course using GPS.
    Last edited by Nikitn; February 02, 2012 at 11:27 AM.

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    What implications does this have on the commercial airline industry?

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    But all the air around the bullet already is moving Eastwards (due to the Earth's rotation) so the bullet should be carried along with it. Irelanddeb: The Airplanes can correct their course using GPS.
    Air direction can be all over the place, I didn't pretend to include it. All I did was use the difference in tangential velocities (Absolute E-W velocity) between the shooter and the target which arises because they are at slightly different latitudes.

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