England useless!!

Ok so I'm playing as Russia in coalition. It is now late sept 1813.... Which is 192 turns, England still hasn't even gotten out of bed!!! They haven't fired a single bullet. Is this normal? All other nations are active in Some way be it diplomacy or war or navy or building, but England hasn't dont anything yet. It was attacked in the beginning of the game by France and even since then it's armies haven't healed yet!!!!!!!

Does anyone have a clue what's goin on? How can I fix this?

Thanks all

all AI nations aren't really active; England more so because the AI doesn't like the idea of naval invasions lol.

That's strange... In my current campaign Spain is invading everyone by sea... It is now a super power and owns Italy and Greece, well, used to

As a UK player, I didn't particularly find the allied factions useful. You may be on to something.

Originally Posted by Aqpwod

As a UK player, I didn't particularly find the allied factions useful. You may be on to something.

Yes u r right. When I played as the uk, both Austria and prussia were active and russia was a dead goose. I just don't know why, or how to fix. Playing as Russia right now I could sure use the help of the English on France, but with England picking its nose, and Prussia and Austria beat, I'm all alone and the French are giving me their full undivided attention!! I feel so special.

AI factions are freaking mean on hard and very hard... allies back stab and launch 3-6 army invasions....

Originally Posted by Data78

AI factions are freaking mean on hard and very hard... allies back stab and launch 3-6 army invasions....

I'm not sure I like allies back stabbing though because it was unrealistic... Nations held unto their allies because they can't afford to pissoff the whole world. But back stabbing your allies is not something nations would have been fond of.

Strange, for me Britain is basically making the D-Day landings of Northern France in my Russian game, they freed Brittany and are actually fighting Napoleon himself outside Paris.

Originally Posted by Oxode

Strange, for me Britain is basically making the D-Day landings of Northern France in my Russian game, they freed Brittany and are actually fighting Napoleon himself outside Paris.

I'm envious, I would love to have seen England do d-day landings on France or even attempt to use its navy.

Originally Posted by DinoMight

I'm envious, I would love to have seen England do d-day landings on France or even attempt to use its navy.

I'm surprised the AI actually did that myself, and with those D-Day landings, Austria and Prussia were able to hold from being wiped out after the Napoleonic Blitzkrieg across Europe.

Originally Posted by DinoMight

I'm envious, I would love to have seen England do d-day landings on France or even attempt to use its navy.

Well recently I quit a VH/VH game as France because the British landed a huge fleet at Caen and could have easily captured Paris the next turn. This was actually their second major landing; previously I destroyed an entire stack commanded by Wellington at Brussels. Then Prussia declared war on me, and I foolish left Paris without much of a garrison.

Maybe the British just suck because you are playing one of their allies. I'm playing on H/H as Prussia now and they don't seem to be doing much of anything except occassionally kicking out a French fleet that decides to take an afternoon cruise to the English coast and captures one of their docks.

Originally Posted by Oxode

Strange, for me Britain is basically making the D-Day landings of Northern France in my Russian game, they freed Brittany and are actually fighting Napoleon himself outside Paris.

This looks as like crazy idea. It never happen during Napoleonic Wars and could not happen, because British army was relativelly small and they could not realised D-day operations at that time.

Britain can engaged only small forces and can organized some poorly expeditions, but it end in failure many times e.g.
two expeditions at Buednos Aires 1806, 1807, Naples 1806, Alexandria in Egipt 1807, LaCoruna 1808, Walcheren 1809 and New Orlean 1815.
Even when British fought somewhere together with allies it also end in failure few times e.g. Anglo-Russian expedition to Holland in 1799 and to Naples 1806, Anglo-Swedes-Russian expedition to Hanover 1805.

British feared confrontation with Napoleon on the land and did not help Prussian and Russian in 1807.

Even in peninsula war British needed many allies and 6 or 7 years to defeat French there.
These can happen only because Napoleon was already defeated in Central Europe by Austrian, Prussian, Russian, Swedes and few other small allies.

British also won at Waterloo 1815 only because there fought many allies and Prussian army came when British were in dangerous situation. These effectively helped defeated French. In other hand Wellington could be defeated or quickly retreated on British Isles.

Then such case as British D-day operation directly to France was impossible at that time.

Originally Posted by DinoMight

I'm envious, I would love to have seen England do d-day landings on France or even attempt to use its navy.

British d-day landings on France was sucidial, unrealistic and impossible at that period.
Then maybe CA prevented in NTW such cases which clearly was not realistic.

Originally Posted by DinoMight

I'm not sure I like allies back stabbing though because it was unrealistic...

Actually, there were several examples of nations of swapping of sides during the French Revolutionary/Napoleonic wars. Some more forced than others. Both Spain and Russia fought for and against France at some stage of the wars. So it's not entirely unrealistic...

I guess realism was implemented into the campaign AI.
It seems that the enemies are far more active than the allies. In my UK campaign, my Prussian allies were almost wiped out by the French, while the Austrian, Russian and Portuguese allies were sitting back. Some of the regions I liberated from France went on to become on friendly terms with them, which I found silly.

Originally Posted by Aqpwod

I guess realism was implemented into the campaign AI.
It seems that the enemies are far more active than the allies. In my UK campaign, my Prussian allies were almost wiped out by the French, while the Austrian, Russian and Portuguese allies were sitting back. Some of the regions I liberated from France went on to become on friendly terms with them, which I found silly.

That's similar to what's happening with me, I'm fighting France alone, Prussia and Austria got swept pretty early, (then again their units suck, they have no real strong units, especially austria) the English are sitting on the island picking their butt and I'm stuck alone fighting the French and spanish.

In my coalition campaing Britain always remain clear my trades routes . I remember playing as Prussia the British invaded the Batavian Republic and helped decisively in the conquest of the capital of France.

Originally Posted by El_muchacho

In my coalition campaing Britain always remain clear my trades routes . I remember playing as Prussia the British invaded the Batavian Republic and helped decisively in the conquest of the capital of France.

See I wish the game's AI made allies always helpful like that.

Why is it in any thread about Britain somebody always has to come in and say the British army was bad when that has nothing to do with the thread itself?
The British army fought in the way it was best suited to against the French.
They trained,equipped and fed there allies who fought with them and used there superior skills to beat the French.

In the penisula they took a long time true.

They also lost far less men then the French did and won almost every battle defeating most of Napoleons best generals.
Yes the army wasnt entirely British but it was largely trained,equipped and payed by the British and im relatively sure Britain was the only nation involved in that entire war that was never forced to surrender or conquered.
Then the French attempted to prevent British trade.
Good plan except French officer's were selling the right to trade with Britain for a profit.
Bit of a slap in the face for the o so mighty emperor.

Then there's the navy.
France attempted to expand before napoleon became emperor but ran into the small issue of there navy being sent to the bottom of the ocean by the British.
Napoleon attempted to invade Britain then failed totally called off the invasion and then he's newly rebuilt navy got sank all over again by the British.

Waterloo that was the army he was given not the one he decided upon Arthur had no choice in the matter.
And then they only held that position long enough for the remnants of the already defeated Prussian army to arrive because he's tactics were a match for napoleons and he may have won except a rather large portion of the allied army broke and fled the field before the battle ended.




Now onto the subject.
The game tends to avoid naval invasions a lot of the time the best way to get the British involved is send 1 army by sea urself take a coastal city bordering Britain and give it to them with some money.
Usually after that they will being sending men across the channel to defend there land and start expanding.

Other then that its just a rare sight to see a nation going on a naval blitz.

Originally Posted by mesor

Now onto the subject.
The game tends to avoid naval invasions a lot of the time the best way to get the British involved is send 1 army by sea urself take a coastal city bordering Britain and give it to them with some money.
Usually after that they will being sending men across the channel to defend there land and start expanding.

Other then that its just a rare sight to see a nation going on a naval blitz.

Wazup mesor,
no one has anything against the British army in real life, just in the game they're useless, I gave them a piece of land (bretany) like what u suggested which they did nothing with and lost, they didnt bother reinforcing it or anything till the spanish sailed an army up their and kicked them out. as far as using the navy, u should have seen what the Spanish did, they invaded all of Italy by sea, then went on and invaded all of Greece by sea. I kept watching their ships running back and forth transporting troops all over the place. I just wish england did that too.

Britain can engaged only small forces and can organized some poorly expeditions, but it end in failure many times e.g.
two expeditions at Buednos Aires 1806, 1807, Naples 1806, Alexandria in Egipt 1807, LaCoruna 1808, Walcheren 1809 and New Orlean 1815.
Even when British fought somewhere together with allies it also end in failure few times e.g. Anglo-Russian expedition to Holland in 1799 and to Naples 1806, Anglo-Swedes-Russian expedition to Hanover 1805.

British feared confrontation with Napoleon on the land and did not help Prussian and Russian in 1807.

Even in peninsula war British needed many allies and 6 or 7 years to defeat French there.
These can happen only because Napoleon was already defeated in Central Europe by Austrian, Prussian, Russian, Swedes and few other small allies.

British also won at Waterloo 1815 only because there fought many allies and Prussian army came when British were in dangerous situation. These effectively helped defeated French. In other hand Wellington could be defeated or quickly retreated on British Isles.

Then such case as British D-day operation directly to France was impossible at that time.

I think exnowy did .



Its kinda random naval invasions dont happen much.