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  1. January 28, 2012, 10:13 AM #1
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    Default How to increase population?

    Hi, im playing as free people of eriador and i want to reunite arnor (i have destroyed isengard, orcs of dundeland and pushong orcs of misty mountains) Its getting hard to attack and repel enemy with militia speamens and bowmens. Aragorn is alive (he is 81) alluminum population is 25,5K and i need 26K i have built all irigirations and farms and 0 growth (aragorn i sthe governor) so this is the questions: How to increase to 26k and when aragorn will die (he should live very very long, right?) and if aragorn dies is it still possible to reunite arnor?
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  2. January 28, 2012, 10:32 AM #2
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    Default Re: How to increase population?

    alluminum
    that's a first one you mean annuminas my friend? ok, no damage done...

    well, annuminas is notoriously hard to upgrade. you can only wait, place your best generals there; best in terms of economy (use the ones with traits and ancs that decrease squalor, increase happiness etc) lower the taxes etc...

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    if you want faster way, you can use cheats...
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  3. January 28, 2012, 10:44 AM #3
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    Default Re: How to increase population?

    I "solved" the population "problem" with adding

    "population_growth_bonus 1"

    to every wall level of castles and cities . ( building capabilities-entry in export_descr_buildings.txt )
    This way its not a cheat as every settlement gets it...
    Even if this is savegame compatible this does not help you in a running campaign very much...
    Last edited by Lazy; January 28, 2012 at 12:16 PM.
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    ...the woman trampled didn't look impenetrable. So they ran through her.
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  4. January 28, 2012, 11:31 AM #4
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    Default Re: How to increase population?

    irrelevant
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  5. January 28, 2012, 12:04 PM #5
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    Default Re: How to increase population?

    Quote Originally Posted by Minas Moth View Post
    you mean export_desc_buildings.txt? the file you said has nothing to do with building capabilities

    other than that it won't be save-game comapatible as far as i know
    Yes^^ I mean the EDB!!! I just forgot the "export"

    I will edit my post... thanks for telling
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  6. January 28, 2012, 12:15 PM #6
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    Default Re: How to increase population?

    it 's more simple to edit desc_region.txt in data/world/base...

    by this way you can change the level of population growth.

    ex:

    Anorien_Province
    Anorien
    sicily
    Human_Rebels
    173 172 171
    grasland, minas_tirith, crusade, coast, roads, big_city
    5
    1 ;BF -------------------------------------> (this is number you can change... 5 is the limit I think.)
    religions { catholic 7 orthodox 5 islam 3 northmen 5 heretic 0 numenorian 80 }

    change all region u want!!!!


    Enjoy!
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  7. January 28, 2012, 12:20 PM #7
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    Default Re: How to increase population?

    It is simpler!
    But then itīs a cheat again as it will work with 1 settlent only... yours!
    If you want to make it not-a-cheat you have to change it for every single settlement... that it is a bunch of work...
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  8. January 28, 2012, 01:09 PM #8
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    Default Re: How to increase population?

    If you have all the pop growth buildings- the cattle farming, irrigation, and town halls- and set taxes to low, Anuminas will reach 26000 on its own. If you add a 7+ chivalry general, you'll get a .5% bonus so you'll get there a little faster.

    No need to cheat or mod unless you are impatient.
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  9. January 28, 2012, 01:36 PM #9
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    Default Re: How to increase population?

    If you add a 7+ chivalry general, you'll get a .5% bonus so you'll get there a little faster.
    a side note on this one tough... KK intentionally made Character Traits less "productive" in terms of population growth. so you should carefully consider if it is wise to keep your general with 7 chivalry and quite an upkeep in town for just 0.5% pop growth bonus...

    No need to cheat or mod unless you are impatient.
    completely agree, +rep
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  10. January 28, 2012, 06:42 PM #10
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    Default Re: How to increase population?

    And when you just want Alluminum to upgrade already, type

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    add_population Annuminas 600
    `

    And you'll reach the magic number.
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  11. January 28, 2012, 08:32 PM #11
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    Default Re: How to increase population?

    I released a small submod here for those wishing to have a more "arcade" experience and develop settlements faster
    cough, cough shameless pluging

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  12. January 29, 2012, 02:46 AM #12
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    Default Re: How to increase population?

    BAN HIM!

    Why is anything that doesn't cause you to grind your teeth and tear out your hair and punch walls "arcade"?
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  13. January 29, 2012, 05:52 AM #13
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    Default Re: How to increase population?

    Haha, i like the slow growth, but people like games to go quicker, what can you do

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  14. January 29, 2012, 11:32 AM #14
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    Default Re: How to increase population?

    Quote Originally Posted by David93 View Post
    Haha, i like the slow growth, but people like games to go quicker, what can you do
    You can fail to provide them with the tools to do so

    But I joke. Everyone can play how they want I suppose, and if they prefer it one way or another, who's to say one is better (even though I would agree that the pop. growth as it is now is signifcantly more realistic and balanced)?
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