Cross border attack on Pakistan by Iranian border guards

**DarthLazy** · January 26, 2012, 11:07 AM

QUETTA: Pakistan on Sunday detained three Iranian border guards after they allegedly crossed the border and shot at a car, killing a Pakistani national, local Pakistani officials said.
The Iranians reached Mazan Sar Mashkail, in Washuk district, three kilometres (1.8miles) inside Pakistan where they opened fire on a vehicle they were chasing, according to officials in Balochistan.
“All three personnel of Iranian border security force were taken into custody for their penetration inside Pakistan and killing a Pakistani national on our soil”, Saeed Ahmad Jamali, Deputy Commissioner of Washuk district told AFP.
A Pakistani national was killed and his brother was wounded by gunshots in the incident, he added.
Mazan Sar Mashkail is around 600 kilometres southwest of Quetta, the main town of insurgency hit Baluchistan province, which borders Iran’s Sistan-Baluchestan province.
Iranian embassy officials in Islamabad were unavailable for comment late Sunday but Iran in the past has blamed a Sunni extremist group, called Jundallah, for launching attacks inside Pakistan from Sistan-Balochistan.
Jundallah says it is fighting Tehran’s Shiite rule to secure rights for Sunni Balochis who form a significant population in Sistan-Balochistan, which borders both Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Pakistani officials said the Iranian guards were trying to take both Pakistani nationals back into Iran.
“Both Pakistanis were injured and one was later died. Pakistani troops at the border surrounded the Iranians and have taken them into custody”, Jamali added.
“We have contacted our senior officials about the fate of these Iranian, Jamali said.
A Pakistan security official in Quetta confirmed the incident with request of anonymity as he was not authorised to speak to media.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/315371/i...border-attack/

This is the second time this has happened , really do not understand what they were trying to do, shooting at drug smugglers?

**Vanoi** · January 26, 2012, 04:08 PM

They could have thought they were drug smugglers. Or maybe the border guards were just idiots.

**mrmouth** · January 26, 2012, 05:17 PM

Iranian border guards are notorious. They shot at US forces on the Iraqi side, continually, trying to start an international incident. Every night, a shot or two in our direction. It started right after the invasion - like day 3. Navy SEAls were running ops on the Shatt al-Arab river and would take fire every night right after the invasion started.

**Stívarðr Reynitré** · January 26, 2012, 05:19 PM

US forces infringe on the sovereignty of Pakistan with alarming frequency.

Needs must, right?

**mrmouth** · January 26, 2012, 05:21 PM

Given that until recently the incidents of infringement of sovereignty were starting from within Pakistan itself, it really doesn't fit the definition.

I think everyone now knows that Pakistan had totally signed off on the drone campaign, etc, considering it was based in Pakistan. Probably still is, in part. Pakistan's tantrums are politically motivated.

**Poet** · January 27, 2012, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by |Sith|5|DarthLazy

http://tribune.com.pk/story/315371/i...border-attack/

This is the second time this has happened , really do not understand what they were trying to do, shooting at drug smugglers?

This is illogical, but yesterday they shot few Pakistani smugglers in their area. Iranians have been peaceful with us from 'pre-historic' period. Same was the situation with Afghanistan, (after Taliban) and with China. Now Iran must know that intl thugs are trying to isolate her to the last possible limit and as Zardari reveals some (doubtful) opening of new theatre of war, Iran must not provide Pakistani politicians and army a chance to stand by American side for a new blood bathed decade. Both sides should act sane.

Originally Posted by BarnabyJones

Iranian border guards are notorious. They shot at US forces on the Iraqi side, continually, trying to start an international incident. Every night, a shot or two in our direction. It started right after the invasion - like day 3. Navy SEAls were running ops on the Shatt al-Arab river and would take fire every night right after the invasion started.

Your direction? You mean the direction where you dropped tonnes of cluster bombs on cities densely populated? Well it is wrong if they do so, but then you should not be everywhere in direction of a bullet or missile. You may stay calm within your national borders which are far far away from Iraq and Iran.

Originally Posted by BarnabyJones

Given that until recently the incidents of infringement of sovereignty were starting from within Pakistan itself, it really doesn't fit the definition.

I think everyone now knows that Pakistan had totally signed off on the drone campaign, etc, considering it was based in Pakistan. Probably still is, in part. Pakistan's tantrums are politically motivated.

That's true.

**Admiral Piett** · January 27, 2012, 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by Poet

This is illogical, but yesterday they shot few Pakistani smugglers in their area. Iranians have been peaceful with us from 'pre-historic' period. Same was the situation with Afghanistan, (after Taliban) and with China. Now Iran must know that intl thugs are trying to isolate her to the last possible limit and as Zardari reveals some (doubtful) opening of new theatre of war, Iran must not provide Pakistani politicians and army a chance to stand by American side for a new blood bathed decade. Both sides should act sane.

Your direction? You mean the direction where you dropped tonnes of cluster bombs on cities densely populated? Well it is wrong if they do so, but then you should not be everywhere in direction of a bullet or missile. You may stay calm within your national borders which are far far away from Iraq and Iran.

That's true.

So the Iranians shooting at your countrymen is America's fault?

**6644kp** · January 27, 2012, 04:26 AM

Everyone infringes on Pakistani sovereignty, the Americans do it every other day and the Taliban outright rule the North Waziristan province.

So why shouldnt the Iranians join in the fun?

**Tiberios** · January 28, 2012, 03:06 AM

Well, it seems quite a stupid move by those Iranian border guards.

Originally Posted by Future Filmmaker

So the Iranians shooting at your countrymen is America's fault?

Obviously.

Originally Posted by Babur

Iran has invaded what is now Pakistan many times in the past, under the Achaemenids,Parthians,Sassanids,Safavids and Afsharids.There must be serious problems with the way history is taught in Pakistan.

Indeed. One of many problems.

**DarthLazy** · January 27, 2012, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by Poet

This is illogical, but yesterday they shot few Pakistani smugglers in their area. Iranians have been peaceful with us from 'pre-historic' period. Same was the situation with Afghanistan, (after Taliban) and with China. Now Iran must know that intl thugs are trying to isolate her to the last possible limit and as Zardari reveals some (doubtful) opening of new theatre of war, Iran must not provide Pakistani politicians and army a chance to stand by American side for a new blood bathed decade. Both sides should act sane.

Ever heard of the Safavids?

**ivan_the_terrible** · January 27, 2012, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by |Sith|5|DarthLazy

Ever heard of the Safavids?

There was no such thing as Pakistan at the time of Safavid Persia.

**Babur** · January 27, 2012, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by Poet

This is illogical, but yesterday they shot few Pakistani smugglers in their area. Iranians have been peaceful with us from 'pre-historic' period.

Iran has invaded what is now Pakistan many times in the past, under the Achaemenids,Parthians,Sassanids,Safavids and Afsharids.There must be serious problems with the way history is taught in Pakistan.

**Poet** · January 27, 2012, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by Future Filmmaker

So the Iranians shooting at your countrymen is America's fault?

Did I say that?

Originally Posted by 6644kp

Everyone infringes on Pakistani sovereignty, the Americans do it every other day and the Taliban outright rule the North Waziristan province.

So why shouldnt the Iranians join in the fun?

America is super power hence they would not like to fully invade us because this would force our shameless army to do 'something'. Taliban are no country, they are a group of fighters, they hit and hide and if they fail to hide we hide them beneath soil. Iran is a country and a friendly one from our time of freedom, they should be careful, especially in given circumstances.

Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K

Probably storm in a teacup, but an armed confrontation between Iran and Pakistan should be interesting - Revolutionary Guard versus vaunted Pakistan military.

Day dreaming buddy!

Originally Posted by |Sith|5|DarthLazy

Ever heard of the Safavids?

Originally Posted by ivan_the_terrible

There was no such thing as Pakistan at the time of Safavid Persia.

This.

Originally Posted by Babur

Iran has invaded what is now Pakistan many times in the past, under the Achaemenids,Parthians,Sassanids,Safavids and Afsharids.There must be serious problems with the way history is taught in Pakistan.

There must be some serious problems with the way you read my posts. I said Iran is peaceful with 'us', that means Pakistan. Simple.

**Babur** · January 28, 2012, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by Poet

There must be some serious problems with the way you read my posts. I said Iran is peaceful with 'us', that means Pakistan. Simple.

You claimed this:

Iranians have been peaceful with us from 'pre-historic' period.

when it was not always the case actually

**DarthLazy** · January 27, 2012, 03:25 AM

Correct .

**Stívarðr Reynitré** · January 27, 2012, 04:51 AM

My point exactly.

Sovereignty as a concept is laughable these days.

**Condottiere 40K** · January 27, 2012, 05:11 AM

Probably storm in a teacup, but an armed confrontation between Iran and Pakistan should be interesting - Revolutionary Guard versus vaunted Pakistan military.

**Prosaic Visitant** · January 27, 2012, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K

Probably storm in a teacup, but an armed confrontation between Iran and Pakistan should be interesting - Revolutionary Guard versus vaunted Pakistan military.

I bet that 30 Revolutionary Guardsmen alone could take on the Pakistan military. 50 if it's a bad day.

I mean, Persians have conquered the people and land we now call Pakistan so many times before.

**Roboute Guilliman** · January 27, 2012, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by Malzahar

I bet that 30 Revolutionary Guardsmen alone could take on the Pakistan military. 50 if it's a bad day.

I mean, Persians have conquered the people and land we now call Pakistan so many times before.

This is true. The spirit of the great Ayatollah Khomeini lives within Revolutionary Guards, and acts like a forceshield. Sunni heathens do not stand a chance.

**Poet** · January 28, 2012, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Malzahar

I bet that 30 Revolutionary Guardsmen alone could take on the Pakistan military. 50 if it's a bad day.

I mean, Persians have conquered the people and land we now call Pakistan so many times before.

People and land did not have that those days what we have now.

Originally Posted by Gattsu

This is true. The spirit of the great Ayatollah Khomeini lives in the Revolutionary Guards. Sunni heathens do not stand a chance.