Arabic children think it's okay to shoot at passing Jewish cars

[ash874]

i know i know im picking on the arabs


http://www.idf.il/1283-14672-en/Dover.aspx

Indictments filed against terrorists in Samaria
IDF-ISA arrest terrorists responsible for gunfire attack at an Israeli vehicle on a route in Samaria last month

Date: 24/01/2012, 7:55 PM Author: IDF Website
In a joint IDF-ISA activity, IDF soldiers arrested the suspects responsible for carrying out the gunfire attack that occurred on Saturday, December 24, 2011, directed at an Israeli vehicle heading towards Ma'ale Shomeron, near Azzun. The trial of the suspects is currently ongoing in the military court of Samaria.

During their investigation, both admitted their responsibility for the shooting as well as involvement in other terror activity in the area of Azzun, involving other militants from the village, who were also arrested and taken for questioning.

In the past few weeks, 17 residents of Azzun were arrested on suspicion of involvement in terror activity. During the investigation, the rifle used to carry out the attack was uncovered, among a pipe bomb and three additional rifles.

The suspects confessed executing additional shooting attacks in the beginning of December 2011, including shooting at security forces. They were also involved in a number of rock and fire bomb hurling incidents, directed at both Israeli civilian and IDF vehicles on the main road near Azzun.

Indictments against four of those detained were handed down to the military court in Samaria, charging them with: attempt of causing death with intent, throwing of an explosive device and throwing objects at a moving vehicle. Some of the men were also charged with trading in military equipment.

The IDF and ISA are constantly operating to reduce the phenomenon of shooting incidents and rock and fire bomb hurling incidents at Israeli vehicles and IDF soldiers around the village of Azzun, and will continue to thwart such attempts.


the video of the attack

a picture of the makeshift gun is attached (from ynet)

[MathiasOfAthens]

Now is this all Arabs or....

[Kanaric]

If I drove through Cabrini green in 1996 im sure african american kids would think the same.

That's what happens when you have a rotten poor ghetto.

[mrmouth]

If I drove through Cabrini green in 1996 im sure african american kids would think the same.

That's what happens when you have a rotten poor ghetto.

Or you could begin to address all of the underlying the reasons as to why a ghetto persists, and then fosters a ghetto mentality.

Threads pointless, but suggesting there isn't a seriously demented mentality being pushed within Gaza, is simply wrong. You can only blame Israel so much. There are plenty of cases of people being in throughly crappy situations where they do not take to violence. This thing would have been over long ago had the Palestinians not allowed themselves to be hijacked by cult personalities with agendas other than peace.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

Saw a video of a Jewish family and everyday they drive there car from where they live to go to work or school or the market they go through a certain road and everyday they get stoned.And i mean rocks thrown by kids at them not the stuff you smoke.Not a nice way to live but thats what happens when you live on top of arab land.

First of all are you telling me these kids have guns??That video could be kids with a sling shot??Its not very clear...Just black dots and a blurry white haze..Like some bad atari game from the 80s

[Tyler_the_Great]

Saw a video of a Jewish family and everyday they drive there car from where they live to go to work or school or the market they go through a certain road and everyday they get stoned.And i mean rocks thrown by kids at them not the stuff you smoke.Not a nice way to live but thats what happens when you live on top of arab land.

If that happened to me there would be a lot of death. Their death, on my hands. These people are not just shooting at the Israeli military, they are shooting and attacking civilians.

[Dr. Croccer]

I'd do the same if my country was ruled by immigrants.

[Rome101]

I'd do the same if my country was ruled by immigrants.

Do you suggest Palestinians are native locals?

@everyone else:
How in the name of sanity can you legitimize an attempted murder?

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

Do you suggest Palestinians are native locals?

No they quite clearly came from another planet..They could not be semites from the region as they appear to be black dots that hover in the video

@everyone else:
How in the name of sanity can you legitimize an attempted murder?

Too much video games like Battlefield 3 has made us desentisized to violence.

[irontaino]

@everyone else:
How in the name of sanity can you legitimize an attempted murder?

That's hwhat you do to invaders, you kill them.

[Dr. Croccer]

Do you suggest Palestinians are native locals?

Are you suggesting that they aren't?

[Plan C]

Do you suggest Palestinians are native locals?

I sense a definition of a "native local" coming on. In the interest of accuracy, of course.

Or you could begin to address all of the underlying the reasons as to why a ghetto persists, and then fosters a ghetto mentality.

Threads pointless, but suggesting there isn't a seriously demented mentality being pushed within Gaza, is simply wrong. You can only blame Israel so much. There are plenty of cases of people being in throughly crappy situations where they do not take to violence. This thing would have been over long ago had the Palestinians not allowed themselves to be hijacked by cult personalities with agendas other than peace.

It's a realistic response - goal vs means calculation. When peaceful avenues remain closed (even Merkel admits that in their response to Bibi), violent options gain traction.Sense of basic injustice can very easily be exploited to despicable ends. I strongly disagree with violence but my options allow it.

That out of the way, I do not condone violence, I urge Bibi to make a potential deal at least palatable to the the other side. Maybe then we can stop the collective thought of "Oh FFS..." each time news comes on.

[mrmouth]

It's a realistic response - goal vs means calculation. When peaceful avenues remain closed (even Merkel admits that in their response to Bibi), violent options gain traction.Sense of basic injustice can very easily be exploited to despicable ends. I strongly disagree with violence but my options allow it.

I understand all of that, and agree with most of it, but this is quite obvious, based on history, that the Palestinians have gained not a damned thing in fighting back, aside from making their minders wealthy. Talk about false idols, and the PLO (and Arafat specifically) are the very definition.

All the Palestinian people had to do was not take to violence, and they would have all the favor to work with. When it comes to governments that have to at some point divorce themselves from emotion when making decisions (you'd hope), they lose all favor, even from their Muslim brothers.

That is the saddest thing for me. All they had to do was let the situation speak for itself.

[motiv-8]

I understand all of that, and agree with most of it, but this is quite obvious, based on history, that the Palestinians have gained not a damned thing in fighting back, aside from making their minders wealthy. Talk about false idols, and the PLO (and Arafat specifically) are the very definition.

Actually, one of the long-term results of the Munich massacre and other contemporary terrorist and militant attacks against Israeli targets was -- yes, crazy enough -- the granting of a public forum in the UN to Arafat and the PLO (observer status granted in 1974).

All the Palestinian people had to do was not take to violence, and they would have all the favor to work with. When it comes to governments that have to at some point divorce themselves from emotion when making decisions (you'd hope), they lose all favor, even from their Muslim brothers.

Maybe. Or maybe they'd have found themselves with even less land and national cohesion than they do now. They weren't even in control of their own destiny until after the 1967 war, instead having to defer to the Arab League on all decisions. This is when the conflict shifted to an actual Israel-Palestinian one rather than a more general Arab-Israeli fight. Either way, what was done was done, and now more and more Palestinians are realizing they have more to gain from peaceful means than armed struggle which has brought much bloodshed, but no Palestine.

[Burnum]

I understand all of that, and agree with most of it, but this is quite obvious, based on history, that the Palestinians have gained not a damned thing in fighting back, aside from making their minders wealthy. Talk about false idols, and the PLO (and Arafat specifically) are the very definition.

All the Palestinian people had to do was not take to violence, and they would have all the favor to work with. When it comes to governments that have to at some point divorce themselves from emotion when making decisions (you'd hope), they lose all favor, even from their Muslim brothers.

That is the saddest thing for me. All they had to do was let the situation speak for itself.

I used too think that diplomacy was the answer as well, but Israel is only using the negotiations to build more settlements and destroy any hope of a viable Palestinian state. It's also increasingly clear that the US is incapable or unwilling to do or say anything that might be deemed critical or disadvantageous to Israel.

[Morbius Sire]

I understand all of that, and agree with most of it, but this is quite obvious, based on history, that the Palestinians have gained not a damned thing in fighting back, aside from making their minders wealthy. Talk about false idols, and the PLO (and Arafat specifically) are the very definition.

All the Palestinian people had to do was not take to violence, and they would have all the favor to work with. When it comes to governments that have to at some point divorce themselves from emotion when making decisions (you'd hope), they lose all favor, even from their Muslim brothers.

That is the saddest thing for me. All they had to do was let the situation speak for itself.

While what you say is, in theory, true.
But during those early years, negotiations wouldn't work. What brought the Palestinian cause to the international stage was those external operations, as sad or weird as it sounds. One should also consider that at the time, the soviet union was politically and militarily strong, so military action was easier to carry out than today.

At that time -as now- there was the whole "Israel is a victim, so we must protect them" aura in the west. Though not as strong as today, especially in the US .

[Kanaric]

Saw a video of a Jewish family and everyday they drive there car from where they live to go to work or school or the market they go through a certain road and everyday they get stoned.And i mean rocks thrown by kids at them not the stuff you smoke.Not a nice way to live but thats what happens when you live on top of arab land.

First of all are you telling me these kids have guns??That video could be kids with a sling shot??Its not very clear...Just black dots and a blurry white haze..Like some bad atari game from the 80s

My dad told me a similar story that happened back ib the 60s. Whenever he would take a bus to his high school in chicago and they would drive through a black neighborhood their bus would be pelted with bricks.

Same situation really. Similar causes. Economic disparity and racism.

[ShockBlast]

My dad told me a similar story that happened back ib the 60s. Whenever he would take a bus to his high school in chicago and they would drive through a black neighborhood their bus would be pelted with bricks.

Same situation really. Similar causes. Economic disparity and racism.

Tell me you are joking.
Pelting with bricks is not cool at all.The situation is much better now i guess.

[Vítor Gaspar]

My dad told me a similar story that happened back ib the 60s. Whenever he would take a bus to his high school in chicago and they would drive through a black neighborhood their bus would be pelted with bricks.

Same situation really. Similar causes. Economic disparity and racism.

See, we can agree on something sometimes.

[Sphere]

Israel chose to occupy these lands and these people. Israel could have given the lands/people back like they did the Siani. These people might be jerks, but Israel was well aware they were jerks since 1945, and they decided to bring them within Israel anyways. Don't come whining with buyers remorse now.