The alliance problem

[DeliCiousTZM]

Now im playing a campaign as the Ottomans on the highest difficulty, And i have to say i do enjoy a challange and the fact that you can face AI that can litterly overrun you if you dont watch out.

Now started as Ottomans first turn Russia declared war on me which is almost scripted by the looks of it, and as expected other factions join in and because of the difficulty its okay.

Three of Russia provinces captured a million battles fought senselesly and at turn 30-40 i make a discovery.

Every single major factions is at war with me and they are all allied to each other.

I look at the 4 fleets of over 60 ships parked outside my ports
I Look at Prussian Spanish and GB combined armies walking into russia taking my settlements(Yes GB and Spain in Russia)

I realise the game is broken my campaign is broken. i Sigh and shut of Darth mod all that time being diplomatic for nothing.

[DeliCiousTZM]

Oh and yes i tried as Sweden Denmark and Russia the same result everyone join in one at at time

[Poacher886]

Now im playing a campaign as the Ottomans on the highest difficulty, And i have to say i do enjoy a challange and the fact that you can face AI that can litterly overrun you if you dont watch out.

Now started as Ottomans first turn Russia declared war on me which is almost scripted by the looks of it, and as expected other factions join in and because of the difficulty its okay.

Three of Russia provinces captured a million battles fought senselesly and at turn 30-40 i make a discovery.

Every single major factions is at war with me and they are all allied to each other.

I look at the 4 fleets of over 60 ships parked outside my ports
I Look at Prussian Spanish and GB combined armies walking into russia taking my settlements(Yes GB and Spain in Russia)

I realise the game is broken my campaign is broken. i Sigh and shut of Darth mod all that time being diplomatic for nothing.

Thats actually quite interesting...im playing the 40xunit save as Ottomans (which is set to VH/VH by default), and if i was to describe my similiar amount of turns campaign to you.....

....i could use your very description to do it!!!!!!! even my long turn allies Spain has declared war on me, followed by the French who i was doing a favour for by attacking the russians / Austrains.

It seems its completely scripted.....and of course the stack of British ships means im bankrupt!!

[Napoleon9009]

Odd, I actually won as the Ottoman's. I took a Russian settlement, offer peace they take it. Off and on, and I usally spend 8,000 and bride them to make peace. Only when it was almost me, spain and france left that it was all out war between us three

[AndariusHaliusScipio]

I AM HAVING THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM AS BRITAIN! At first I thought it was diplomatic genius/breakdowns that led to Prussia and Austria and Sweden declaring war on me as the United Kingdom for no reason.


Then Portugal declared war on me for no reason. Then Russia.


Then I look and realize EVERY SINGLE MAJOR NATION is at war with me. Why?


This has become Gamebreaking; I literally cannot continue this campaign because the ENTIRE world is against me and I have no money or infrastructure to support 6 full stacked armies, and my computer doesn't have the capability to sustain field battles with 10,000 vs 20,000 soldiers at once to guarantee an easy victory where the AI magically s it up.

[DeliCiousTZM]

Yes and the worst part is they all ally up if you go to major nations and minor after a few turns of war you will realise that every single computer only have one enemy.... YOU.


I managed to win my Campaigns now doing.

Instant blitz everyone around me
Enter behind enemy lines and loot
Spam Line/Milita and cavalry(Only to take out artiliery

Things impossible to do
- Have Peace/Alliance/Trade
- Roleplay
- Enjoy any Naval gameplay without being demolished
- Build up an army of my picking
- Enjoy more then 20% of the game

And im a realy strong player and sometimes i have to struggle,so i can only imagine someone that dosent play games 10H a day having their game completly broken.

And Yeah Napoleon9009 join reality k thx.

Look i like the difficulty and that the computer is strong, It just feels so wrong to have every single major nation declare war on you inside 10 turns and as Sweden for example your actually allied with 4 to start with!.

[AndariusHaliusScipio]

I've never had that---or this---sort of issues with AI with Empire Total War DarthMod

[Cortez555]

Had this problem with Sweden H/H was doing well and then everyone just declared war on me.

[DARTH VADER]

You notice this AI overaggressiveness in vanilla campaigns, All faction campaigns or 40unit save game campaigns?

[Matto]

You notice this AI overaggressiveness in vanilla campaigns, All faction campaigns or 40unit save game campaigns?

I had similar problem in DarthMod campaign - All Europe (playing Danish and Turkish then)

[gord96]

You notice this AI overaggressiveness in vanilla campaigns, All faction campaigns or 40unit save game campaigns?

I'm trying a Vanilla DM campaign right now as Austria to see if I notice anything. I will let you know how the AI reacts.

[AndariusHaliusScipio]

For me, at least, it is in the 40 unit save game campaign for Britain. In 1.9, I experienced similar, but seeing as I was playing as France, I figured that was normal.

[Poacher886]

Personally im still on 1.8 (40xunit save),and this has happened only as ottomans, but in fairness i've only just scraped the sides of my past three campaigns, because i keep updating to the new Version and starting afresh. But given my current situation im thinking of doing the same again (updating and starting afresh). To be honest, i do have a way out of bankrupsy, but its all a bit 'gamey' thus im lossing my interest in this campaign....

I have three major army's, which despite being bankrupt every turn (-7500 per turn), dont seem to lose much (if any ) infantry. I split them into 5 armys and as a previous poster said, blitzed Russia (which much like all factions puts 40 units in its capital but none else where!)...this enables me to loot 5 provinces in almost as many turns, with the money that would otherwise be eaten every turn, i purchased 8x 86-gun warships, (again for a bankrupt nation, seems a bit silly), thus im now able to remove by force the British blockade on my port, however....

...whats the point when all nations except (strangely) Batvaria are at war with me....i have no-one to trade with!!

[kieran12]

Now im playing a campaign as the Ottomans on the highest difficulty, And i have to say i do enjoy a challange and the fact that you can face AI that can litterly overrun you if you dont watch out.

Now started as Ottomans first turn Russia declared war on me which is almost scripted by the looks of it, and as expected other factions join in and because of the difficulty its okay.

Three of Russia provinces captured a million battles fought senselesly and at turn 30-40 i make a discovery.

Every single major factions is at war with me and they are all allied to each other.

I look at the 4 fleets of over 60 ships parked outside my ports
I Look at Prussian Spanish and GB combined armies walking into russia taking my settlements(Yes GB and Spain in Russia)

I realise the game is broken my campaign is broken. i Sigh and shut of Darth mod all that time being diplomatic for nothing.

I recently started a campaign with Russia set at the highest settings possible (very high campaign and very high battle) And yes and i too have found the diplomacy is rubbish at higher settings. I'd also picked historical for my victory condition.

After a number of turns two years had passed. I'd noticed too all the major factions of Europe had declared war on meaning Russia! Yet, France was still at peace.. Historical my ass!

My First battles were against the Ottoman Empire who'd declared war on me first. That was ok was able to conquer most of their lands with two stacked armies of well battled troops. Austria during my war with Ottoman, then declared war for some strange reason! then Prussia, then the UK. I was up against every nation in Europe within two years.

I'm finding the Prussia faction very hard to beat. I have already destroyed 5 of their armies, that were sent against, to capture the province of Courtland from me. I've three armies defending that area, but each unit in these armies, has lost men because the battles and i am trying to replenish the units.

But somehow a couple of turns later Prussia sents another three fully stacked armies against me. I know the games is set a very high difficulty, but this just getting ridiculously now. oh ya the British also landed a army by sea, so have fight them as well oh god.

[kieran12]

I recently started a campaign with Russia set at the highest settings possible (very high campaign and very high battle) And yes and i too have found the diplomacy is rubbish at higher settings. I'd also picked historical for my victory condition.

After a number of turns two years had passed. I'd noticed too all the major factions of Europe had declared war on meaning Russia! Yet, France was still at peace.. Historical my ass!

My First battles were against the Ottoman Empire who'd declared war on me first. That was ok was able to conquer most of their lands with two stacked armies of well battled troops. Austria during my war with Ottoman, then declared war for some strange reason! then Prussia, then the UK. I was up against the major nations of Europe within two years.

I'm finding the Prussia faction very hard to beat. I have already destroyed 5 of their armies, that were sent against, to capture the province of Courtland from me. I've three armies defending that area, but each unit in these armies, has lost men because the battles and i am trying to replenish the units.

But somehow a couple of turns later Prussia sents another three fully stacked armies against me. I know the games is set a very high difficulty, but this just getting ridiculously now. oh ya the British also landed a army by sea, so have fight them as well oh god.

[gord96]

This has been a common problem in Napoleon. Any campaign at Hard or Very Hard will turn into a free-for-all against the player. I used to play alot of the mod TROM 2 and they had the exact same problem.

I play on Medium campaign just to avoid this problem. I would rather have a bit easier campaign then have a complete breakdown of diplomacy.

[AndariusHaliusScipio]

I just realized now; What difficulty setting is the campaign in the 40 unit save games set at?! Apparently I can alter the battle difficulty freely, but what is the campaign difficulty set at? And should I/can I adjust it?

[husserlTW]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=517803

It would be good to check the Installation & Technical Support sub-forum before posting your problem/question.

[Louis XVI]

I had the same problem with vanilla NTW, on difficulties hard and very hard all the factions (even your most trusted allies) attack you. I find it terrible and it completely destroys the game play. I played as Austria and I was finally holding my own against Napoleon armies when suddenly my good friends Russia and Prussia attacked my from behind.
I had hoped the darthmod would have solved this problem but know that I find this thread I'm pretty disappointed. I really hope this issue is solved because I really like all the other features of this mod.

But as always, DARTH will save us !!!!!

[Louis XVI]

He will right?