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    Default Pro Gaddafi Forces Captue Bani Wali

    Pretty interesting I think the revolution is on



    http://rt.com/news/libya-new-civil-war-489/



    Fighters loyal to late Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi have clashed with revolutionary forces in the former-regime stronghold of Bani Walid, taking control of the city in the process.
    The head of Libya’s National Transitional Council Mustafa Abdel Jalil today warned of the threat of another civil war.
    At least five NTC troops were killed and 30 others injured in the violence, Interfax reports.
    M’barek al-Fotmani, a local official, says the pro-Gaddafi rebels who seized control of Bani Walid were using heavy weaponry including 106mm anti-tank weapons.
    He also said that authorities called for help when the attack began, but the NTC did not send any troops.
    "There are between 100 and 150 men armed with heavy weapons who are attacking. We have asked for the army to intervene, but the Defense Ministry and NTC have let us down," he told Agence France Press.
    "We're out of the frying pan into the fire. We've been warning about this for the past two months," he added.
    Witnesses say the violence erupted on Monday after Gaddafi loyalists, angry over the arrest of one of their men, attacked pro-revolution fighters.
    The town of Bani Walid was one of the last bastions of pro-Gaddafi force in Libya's eight-month civil war.
    The clashes came after mass protests in the city of Benghazi over the weekend and the subsequent resignation of NTC deputy chief Abdel Hafiz Ghoga.
    Sabah al-Mukhtar, president of the Arab Lawyers Association, believes a new civil war is a real threat.
    “Reason number one is that the arms are still in the hands of the various militias in various areas," in addition to competing tribes in those areas, he explained.
    “At the same time, the political views of the people are in conflict. You have a situation when people want Islam to be a part of the constitution, while you have others that are liberals who do not.”
    So you have the conflict on policies as well as the availability of arms,” he concluded.
    Sabah al-Mukhtar also says there are dramatic divergences in what the NTC says and what it actually does.
    Many of them are actually from the old regime – including the leader who was a Minister of Justice under Gaddafi – and there are many other people like his deputy, like many others, who were men of Gaddafi and at the same time now they say, 'we will not allow those who benefited from Gaddafi`s regime to stand for elections.'"
    The lawyer pointed out that the head of NTC himself served as a Minister of Justice under Gaddafi and turned blind eye to many injustices in the country.
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    Default Re: Pro Gaddafi Forces Captue Bani Wali

    So, who are they fighting for now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ShADoW View Post
    So, who are they fighting for now?
    Themselves most likely, don't think they have much choice seeing as the person they fought for is long gone.

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    ^Whoever gets Royal Schell and BP the best oil-consessions.
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    So soon we have see what revolutionary forces can do without NATO and Arabic support.
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    Told you guys
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    It wasn't like Gaddafi would be dead and the 30-40% that supported him would vanish in thin air.
    There are enough money and guns around for years of violence till Libya is calm again.
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    Well hello there tribalism, nice to see you alive and well.
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    Default Re: Pro Gaddafi Forces Captue Bani Wali

    I think the rebels can win no NATO to help the government now



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreiglord View Post
    I think the rebels can win no NATO to help the government now
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    Default Re: Pro Gaddafi Forces Captue Bani Wali

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsunegari View Post
    Don't count yer chickens before they hatch

    Suddenly millions of african mercenaries charge across the border and storm the capital in the name of Gaddafi



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    Second Revolution is coming!!!
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    Ah not again...

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    I think the NTC will still manage to keep control of most of Libya, but its unlikely they can stop these sort of things happening for some time to come.

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    Default Re: Pro Gaddafi Forces Captue Bani Wali

    The more I come across Libya when reading about various things in the past, the more I am convinced that this is going to be the poster child for not removing the strong man. There are some extremely disturbing things building under everyones noses.

    If you could make the "devil you know" argument about anyone, it would be Libya and Gaddafi. Even more than Syria.

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    Default Re: Pro Gaddafi Forces Captue Bani Wali

    So these are Pro Dead-Gaddafi Forces. Damn, his soul is commanding these forces.
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    Default Re: Pro Gaddafi Forces Captue Bani Wali

    Wonder just what they are now fighting for. So some Gaddiffi fighters have regrouped and took over a town... Now what? Unless they're just in it for money or the violence, they're just going to eventually be driven out again by NTC forces. Wonder why they don't just pack up and go home really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobz View Post
    Wonder just what they are now fighting for. So some Gaddiffi fighters have regrouped and took over a town... Now what? Unless they're just in it for money or the violence, they're just going to eventually be driven out again by NTC forces. Wonder why they don't just pack up and go home really.
    They are mostly fighting for their own reasons, possibly using Gadaffi as a way to get support from old Loyalists maybe?

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    Default Re: Pro Gaddafi Forces Captue Bani Wali

    I thought Gaddafi was dead?

    Enough time has passed since the fall that the regime now has built up a sizable military, perhaps they even have pilots of their own now and planes to fly. They dont really need NATO anymore. However, it is important they have military commanders.

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    Meh, whenever "freedom fighters" fight between themselves they accuse the others being pro Gadafi.

    There was a story a few days ago of groups of thugs accusing people of being pro Gadafi and robing them of cars, house appliances and even homes. Every town has its own militia.

    It is simple, different clans/tribes, thousands of young men with lots of unspent energy(not to mention sexual frustration), guns and conflicting interests and no dictator to keep them in line and voila = violence.

    And if basic services like water, electricity, sewage and garbage retrieval are not working it can only get worse. I am not sure but I think mostly foreigners worked in those sectors and as they fled................

    I predict years of conflict.
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