Legendary Conquerer Trait

[RonaldAniban]

I've read the Readme, and it says there that a general should have at least 1 Great Victory (odds worse than 2:3 with clear victory) in each continent.

Legendary Conqueror: This is a special set of traits. If a Greek general achieves great victories on three continents then he gets the Legendary Conqueror trait, and "the Great" added after his name. For "Victor in Europe" you must win a great victory against a Roman faction, or a Barbarian faction, or against the Greek Cities, Macedon, Thrace, or Spain. For "Victor in Africa" you must win a great victory against Carthage, Numidia, or the Ptolemaic Empire. For "Victor in Asia" any Eastern faction, or the Seleucid Empire will do. A win counts as a great victory if the odds are worse than 3:2 and the result is a clear victory or better.

But how could I know if I already had a great victory in a continent? What's that "Victor in Afira/Asia/Europe"? Is it a trait? Extension of a name? Or you really have to finish all continents before a trait comes out?

I have defeated a horde of Independent gauls with a heroic victory (odds 1:5) and I didn't see any "Victor in Europe". Is it intended?

[Ferdiad]

Its a trait.

[RonaldAniban]

Its a trait.

So it's not working? I've just won a heroic victory against the independent Gauls (1:5) and my general didn't get any trait like "Victor in Europe".

[Ferdiad]

Win more, you have to win lots of victorys to get it.

[DimeBagHo]

I'll check the triggers, but from what I remember one heroic victory against the Independent Gauls should give you the Victor in Europe trait.

[RonaldAniban]

I'll check the triggers, but from what I remember one heroic victory against the Independent Gauls should give you the Victor in Europe trait.

Done checking?

[Ferdiad]

This it?

;------------------------------------------
Trigger gAlex_Europe_01
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
          and WonBattle
          and BattleSuccess >= clear
          and GeneralFoughtCulture roman
          and BattleOdds >= 0.5
          and BattleOdds < 1.5
          and Trait gVictorEurope < 1

    Affects gVictorEurope  1  Chance  100

[RonaldAniban]

This it?

;------------------------------------------
Trigger gAlex_Europe_01
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
          and WonBattle
          and BattleSuccess >= clear
          and GeneralFoughtCulture roman
          and BattleOdds >= 0.5
          and BattleOdds < 1.5
          and Trait gVictorEurope < 1

    Affects gVictorEurope  1  Chance  100

So...only Romans?

[DimeBagHo]

If you look a bit further down there is another trigger for the barbarian factions, so the Independent Gauls should work. Which faction are you playing?

[RonaldAniban]

If you look a bit further down there is another trigger for the barbarian factions, so the Independent Gauls should work. Which faction are you playing?

Macedon. I fought using the faction heir. 1:2 Heroic Victory.

[Ferdiad]

Macedon one

;------------------------------------------
Trigger gAlex_Europe_03
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
          and WonBattle
          and BattleSuccess >= clear
          and BattleOdds >= 0.5
          and BattleOdds < 1.5
          and GeneralFoughtFaction macedon
          and Trait gVictorEurope < 1

    Affects gVictorEurope  1  Chance  100

[RonaldAniban]

So...what the hell?

[RonaldAniban]

@DimeBagHo
Have you tested this already?

Edit: I've tested it for many times using Macedon. I fought my battle against the independent gauls for many times by loading and fighting again after not getting the trait.

Then I became tired. I tried playing as other factions. I cheated to have a "Great Victory" and still, traits don't show up.

[DimeBagHo]

The traits definitely work. I don't play Macedon much, but I've had them work with other Greek factions. It is possible that the odds were too high for the battles you fought. As you can see from the triggers, odds worse than 2:1 against you will not trigger the trait. IIRC that was to prevent the trait from being triggered by relatively small battles.

[RonaldAniban]

The traits definitely work. I don't play Macedon much, but I've had them work with other Greek factions. It is possible that the odds were too high for the battles you fought. As you can see from the triggers, odds worse than 2:1 against you will not trigger the trait. IIRC that was to prevent the trait from being triggered by relatively small battles.

Crap. I also had a battle which had odds 1:5, with the Independent Gauls having 2 full stack reinforcements and with my reduced army (I reduced it intentionally because at first I thought that delayed reinforcements do not count).

It was like a 1500 vs 3000 + 3000 + 3000 battle. Call that small. Their reinforcements were delayed (actually it didn't come) but still, call that "SMALL".
So..I'll do some experiments for now to confirm.

[RonaldAniban]

I had another battle with odds exactly 2:3. I had a heroic victory, took a screenshot, but unfortunately the picture of my desktop shows up when I press CTRL+V in Paint, and TGA viewers I downloaded from the net only show black screen when I open tga files from the "tgas" folder in RTW. They are the screenshots, right? Why can't I see it with a TGA viewer?

BTW, after that battle, no trait showed up. After that, another stack of Independent Gauls attacked my same army with odds 4:7. I won a heroic victory and still, there's no "Victor in Europe". Why so?

[Ferdiad]

AA gives black screens in screenshots unless you use Fraps.

[RonaldAniban]

AA gives black screens in screenshots unless you use Fraps.

Thx for the info.

BTW, why is it that it doesn't work in my game?

[RonaldAniban]

Do I have to use Alex.exe or something?

(bump)

[DimeBagHo]

I think I have found the problem here. At some point the threshold was changed so that you needed five qualifying victories in each area. I will change this back to one in each area, and post a fixed version some time soon.