Bonuses

[HMS England]

When you look at certain units you see, for example:
"bonus fighting cavalry"
"bonus in woods and snow"
"bonus in deserts"
"effective against armour"
etc.

What exactly do these bonuses target? The attack of the units, the defense, the morale, or all of the above?
And as for "effective against armour" bonus... say for example the unit's defense is +8 armour, +6 defense skill, and +4 shield for a total of 18 defense. Does this mean instead of the opposing unit's attack needing to be 18, it only needs to be 10? And a while back (I think it was 09') there was a topic on here talking about defense and a very knowledgeable individual posted that the shield bonus is negated if the unit is attacked on the right side (the shield is on the left side) and that it's a one hit kill if the unit is attacked from the rear or something along those lines.

All input would be most appreciated.

[ChivalrousKiller]

Bonus fighting cavalry gives an attack bonus against cavalry of +4.
Combat bonus in the Woods/Snow gives a boost fighting in the woods or the snow. Defence, I think.
Effective against armour makes the attacks of the unit ignore 50 % of the enemy's armour.

[HMS England]

Bonus fighting cavalry gives an attack bonus against cavalry of +4.
Combat bonus in the Woods/Snow gives a boost fighting in the woods or the snow. Defence, I think.
Effective against armour makes the attacks of the unit ignore 50 % of the enemy's armour.

Ah, so having armour isn't a total waste. I also noticed you spell armour like this as well, why does this stupid auto-correct always underline it red as misspelled?

Rep + for your input too!

[ChivalrousKiller]

I also noticed you spell armour like this as well, why does this stupid auto-correct always underline it red as misspelled?

It's probably set to American English

[HMS England]

It's probably set to American English

I do live in America. But since we speak ENGLISH and the English spell it that way personally, this is just me, I would go with what they say.. ya know? Then again, we are known for doing things our own way (an example being the Old English system vs. SI which even you guys have abandoned )

[Bringer Of Storms]

It's probably set to American English

Now whats wrong with us Americans? Just cause we're fat and lazy doesn't mean our language sucks. Now that I think of it, most foreign people speak English better than us. Ah nevermind you win

[ChivalrousKiller]

Now whats wrong with us Americans? Just cause we're fat and lazy doesn't mean our language sucks. Now that I think of it, most foreign people speak English better than us. Ah nevermind you win

NOT Norwegians. Everytime I hear our prime minister speak english, my reaction is like:

[ChivalrousKiller]

Well, I'm Norwegian I just prefer to speak British English

[HMS England]

Well, I'm Norwegian I just prefer to speak British English

Good choice my friend, English is, in my opinion, one of the, if not THE, most important language to have under your belt nowadays. I mean, it's the primary language spoken among those too smart for their own good intellectuals at international science conventions if ya know what I mean.

Also, I found out the reason of the spelling difference between armour and armor if you care to see. It's not just those two words, it's all -our and -or words. (I'm very inquisitive)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...es#-our.2C_-or

[ChivalrousKiller]

The Norman Conquest? That makes it even more awesome

[HMS England]

I know right, funny how things that happened 1,000+ years ago still directly cause debate even today.

[Gazz]

Does the AP attack defense skill and shield too?

[ChivalrousKiller]

Does the AP attack defense skill and shield too?

Here's something I found at totalwar.org

The official guide had the formula listed. For AP melee weapons, the target armour is modified as such:

• When attacking infantry, AP weapons make the target armour = (Armour - 1) / 2.
• When attacking cavalry, AP weapons make the target armour = (Armour - 2) / 2.

The shield modifier is not used in this calculation, it is applied after the AP effect.

[Aeratus]

Does the AP attack defense skill and shield too?

Melee AP and arrow AP attacks do not affect shield. So a shield is still 100% effective against melee AP and arrow AP. It's also why units like Gothic Knights, Gendarmes and Lancers get eaten up by crossbowmen, while Polish guard are much more effective against arrow fire.

However, gunpower AP attacks ignore shields completely. So shields have absolutely no use against musketeers.

the shield bonus is negated if the unit is attacked on the right side (the shield is on the left side) and that it's a one hit kill if the unit is attacked from the rear or something along those lines.

Shield effect is 100% from front, 50% from left/right, and 0% from back. There's no such thing as automatic one hit kill.

The interesting thing about the shield bonus is that a lot of units in Kingdoms/Vanilla wear their shield on the back (for example, the Varangian guard). In this situation, the shield ironcially still protects the front and side, and NOT the back. However, Modders often prefer to set the shield rating to 0 if the shield is wore on the back, for purely cosmetic purposes..

[Diamond]

Yeah, I think it's that way with all Scandinavian people. I live in America, but my Grandmother is from Sweden. She speaks fluent English, but there's a lot of agreement errors and sometimes her sentence structure is off, and she's lived here for 40 years.

[HMS England]

Yeah, I think it's that way with all Scandinavian people. I live in America, but my Grandmother is from Sweden. She speaks fluent English, but there's a lot of agreement errors and sometimes her sentence structure is off, and she's lived here for 40 years.

Seems a bit strange to me when I think about it. Because both Modern English and all Scandinavian languages come from German. And all of them use prefixes and suffixes along with root words, subject-verb agreement, etc. Though, in her defense Modern English does have a lot more Latin and French words nowadays.

[Sitalkes]

For all questions relating to the relative strength/usefulness/cost effectiveness of units, go here: http://totalwar.honga.net/#medieval2_m2twk_brit. and also here: http://m2tw.warlore.org/units For a full description of units and how to use them go to http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=2388 Every last detail of every unit of every mod is available on these web pages!!! The M2TW armour system is absolutely brilliant, it means that you have to take all factors of an opponent's defence into account when attacking them. So it is easier to attack from the opponent's right side than his left, as that is his shieldless flank - on that flank you do not count the shield bonus (if he has a shield). If you attack from the rear, you count half the armour and no shield, which is one reason why an attack from the rear can be successful even for peasants on a bodyguard. There's a diagram of how all this works on page 17 of the Medievalopedia. The Mediaevlopedia also inlcudes the FAUST unit guide, so if you havent' got it you are missing a real treat, it will answer all your questions!!! You will find it here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=358791

As for English versions, the Americans speak a version of Elizabethan english, which was before the King James Bible and Johnson's dictionary - before Dr Johnson you could spell words any way you liked, and to some extent the inconsistency in English spelling is due to Dr Johnson - he did not make a complete attempt to spell words in a systematic way. Some Americans say they speak a purer version of English than the English because it is an older version and the effort to make spelling consistent was to some extent due to the American effort at introducing "spelling bees" and such like in their education system before other English speaking countries. Well I'm British and live in Australia so I regularly use three versions of English and am highly amused when I see Australians speaking on American TV with subtitles or Australians who can't understand a Yorkshire accent. The most irritating difference for me is "colour" vs "color" as this sometimes causes major problems with computers that I have to fix!