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    Hi guys,

    I'm not really into writing long posts and I don't like to but I kinda have to now.
    I'm developing a mod that takes place in the lands east of Middle Earth, little is known of these lands and the things that are known are almost totally ignored by me so it's not lore-accurate (I won't say lorerape since some people don't like that word for some reason)
    I've fantasised about it since I first saw and read the LOTR and last summer I decided I would work it out. At that point I was mainly spamming the coliseum but I have been interested in modding since I came to TWC.
    Last months I started working on a map but because I'm in university I haven't had a lot of time for it.
    Since I have a very long Christmas holiday I'm able to spend quite a lot of time on modding and it starts to look a bit like a modding project. So I decided to make a thread

    General Information
    Mod Information:

    Factions:
    [Elves]
    Kingdom of Erlon
    Sentinels of the Woodland Realm
    Kingdom of Celeb-Edhil
    Principality of Erebmyr
    [Dwarves]
    Barazin-Khazad Kingdom
    [Men]
    Principality of Tír Dhínin
    Kingdom of Mellon
    Republic of Calinor
    Kingdom of Nordmunde
    Republic of Ondyren
    Xarhûn Empire
    City of Rasan
    Gwaith-uin-Mescain (Swampmen)Khanate of Annûn
    Variag Tribes
    Vieldmunde Klanne
    Wulfamundu Tribes
    Order of Ázkhorábar
    Corsair League
    Haradrim
    [Orcs]
    Orcs of Lugroth
    Northern Orcs
    Orcs of Imúndûr
    Urukburz-Hai

    Religions:
    1. Holy Tree; Erlon, Sentinels, Dír Thínin, Mellon
    2. Eru Iluvatar; Celeb-Edhil, Calinor, Rasan
    3. Aulë; Barazin-Khazad, Ondyren
    4. Ancestral Spirits; Nordmunde, Vieldmunde, Xarhun
    5. Natural Spirits; Swampmen, Wulfamundu, Corsairs
    6. Melkor; Orc factions, Ázkhorábar, Harad, Variag, Annûn
    7. Alchemy; Erebmyr, Ázkhorábar (later)

    Cultures:
    1. Sindar; Kingdom of Celeb-Edhil, Kingdom of Mellon
    2. Avari; Kingdom of Erlon, Principality of Tír Dhínin, Principality of Erebmyr
    3. Dwarven; Dwarves
    4. Westerling; Khanate of Annûn. Variag Tribes, Haradrim, Republic of Ondyren, Corsair League, Xarhûn Empire
    5. Dunedain; Numenorean Exiles, Order of Azkhorabar, City of Rasan
    6. Orc; Who guesses gets a rep
    7. Barbarian; Kingdom of Nordmunde, Vieldmanne Klanne, Wulfamundu Tribes, Gwaith-uin-Mescain



    Faction Info
    Faction info will be done when it's not 2AM
    Kingdom of Erlon
    Kingdom of Erlon

    The most powerfull of the Elven kingdoms build around the great city of Erlon.
    The kingdom has gone through a lot of trouble in the last years, orcs attacking from all sides, the corsairs rading the coasts and the betrayal of Azkhorabar wich lead to the corruption of Morsereg, the heir to the throne. Morsereg killed his father, the noble king Turomen, and his armies devastated the eastern part of the kingdom, Erlon itself was just barely held by his brother Hwestaman who was now king. 20 years later a huge army from Azkhorabar marched towards Minquetal, the capital of the kingdom of Tír Dhínin. The army was supported by vast hordes of orcs from the north and the Vieldmunde clans. King Hwestaman rushed his armies to Minquetal and together with the king of Tír Dhínin he faced the enemy... and got utterly crushed. Both kings lost their lifes while defending the city, the people of Tír Dhínin fled into their southern forests and Hwestaman's sons became kings. Erlon was ruled by Encilmion and Myrlon by Myrinion. After some decades of relative peace, the people of Tír Dhínin managed to take back Minquetal and evil was retreating, there was a sudden attack from the south. Masses of orcs lead by Lugroth crossed the sea from the south with the help of the corsairs. The orcs took Hyaryalond, one of the twin cities guarding the southern passage and destroyed the bridge connecting the two sides while the corsairs took the naval base of Erlon, this way they were unable to help. The orcs marched on Myrlon and in the valley in front of the city they were met by king Myrinion and his forces. Myrinion, heavily outnumbered, didn't stand a chance but his heroic sacrifice gave his people time to evacuate. Myrinion himself died by the hand of the orc chief Lugroth but his sons managed to escape to Erlon.
    Now Erlon is starting to recover and the Elves are almost ready to strike back, they have to drive the orcs and corsairs of their peninsula, hold the northern passage and repopulate the devastated areas. The lost lands of Myrlon have to be reclaimed and their allies are in need of help.
    It is up to YOU to do this all.

    regions: 4 (probably)

    diplomacy:
    allies: Kingdom of Tír Dhínin, Sentinels of the Woodland, kingdom of Celeb-Edhil
    at war: Orcs of Lugroth, Corsair League, Northern Orcs, Order of Ázkhorábar

    Sentinels of the Woodland
    Sentinels of the Woodland

    The Sentinels of the Woodland are the "crusaders" of the kingdom of Erlon, they protect the southern forest and the Holy Tree in it's center from the filthy orcs coming from the mountains. For ages this has been a peacefull place where Elves and men lived in the endless forests. The Elves moved through the entire forest and had good contacts with the Kingdom of Mellon and the local Gwaith-uin-Mescain, by men called the swampmen. They never controlled the entire mountain range to the east of the forests and this has for centuries been the house of one of the largest orc populations. From time to time orc troops devastaded the forests but they weren't a big threath because they lacked a strong leader and fought many wars amongst each other. 50 years ago a strong orc called Lugroth claimed the leadership and united all orcs under his banner. The orcs swarmed the forest and threathened were trying to destroy the holy parts of it. One group pushed all the way through the forest and settled on the side of a big volcano, this place was worshipped by the orcs and from there they limited the Elves from travelling to the western parts. A few years ago two sons of the late king Myrinion arrived to lead the sentinels with more reinforcements from Erlon. Myrinion's oldest son Myrcanion is the captain-general of the sentinels and he is fighting the orcs though the entire forest, his younger brother Micelion resides in the capital and protects the Holy Tree.

    regions: 4/5

    diplomacy:
    allies: Kingdom of Erlon, Celeb-Edhil, Kingdom of Mellon
    at war: Orcs of Lugroth, Corsair League, Order of Azkhorabar

    Kingdom of Celeb-Edhil
    Kingdom of Celeb-Edhil

    "Built himself a paradise." So ends the first verse of The Song of the Celedhil. Right now the world isn't that much of a paradise.

    The world has changed, darkness has fallen over the lands of the elven kingdoms. It began with the death of Caltarí II and Myrinion at the second battle of Minquetal and the battle of Myrlon. It plunged the world into chaos. Erlon is standing with it's back against the wall, Mellon is slowly falling apart. To long have we waited, now it's time for action.

    Celeb-Edhil could become a strong nation, even stronger than Erlon. Yet they are too small to grow to their full potential. After losing all ground on the mainland they retreated to their islands. Celeb-Edhil has a long alliance with the kingdom of Mellon that goes back to the arrival of king Ciloron. But Mellon is slowly falling, the people have retreated to the forests and now hordes of orcs have showed up even there. The Khanate of Annûn has broken it's treaty with the Dwarves and supported by the Variags they invaded Mellon's western land. The rich trading cities fell, only the city of Rasan, once part of the kingdom of Mellon in it's glorydays, was able to hold it's ground. They were able to push the Westerlings back but most of the cities are now abandoned. The Westerlings won't stop their invasions into these fertile and rich lands. Celeb-Edhil must do something against the orcs and the invaders from the west, Mellon will fall without help, Rasan can't hold on forever and Calinor can't hold off every corsair attack. The Elves are now ready to strike to all sides, to the north to help their crippled ally, to the east to drive the Uruks out of their holes and to the west to stop the attacks from the steppes and to the south to hold the attacks of the orcs of Ímundûr.


    regions: 2 (probably)

    diplomacy:
    allies: Sentinels of the Woodland, Kingdom of Erlon, Kingdom of Mellon
    at war: Northern Orcs, Orcs of ímundûr, Urukburz-Hai, Corsairs

    Erebmyr
    Principality of Erebmyr

    Erebmyr was founded by Morsereg short after he killed his father. At first he kept peace with Erlon, but he became ensnared by a wizard from Azkhorabar named Azkhardon. Morsereg then attacked Erlon and brought down many cities that belonged to Erlon. The first battle of Minquetal took place and Hwestaman, Morsereg's brother, died. Although his brother was his enemy Morsereg still mourned when he found out his brother had died. Morsereg withdrew his damaged army from Erlon and started rebuilding them in his realm.

    Now the great war has come, Erebmyr must deem itself worthy to Melkor and Azkhorabar. They must support the troops of Lugroth, defeat Erlon and crush the resistance in Tír Dhínin. This time, Erebmyr doesn't only field elvish warriors, but also orcs and trolls. Erebmyr must rise now and profit of the weaknesses in the fronts of Erlon. You must strike now, you must strike hard.

    regions: 3 (probably)

    diplomacy:
    allies: Order of Azkhorabar, Corsair League, Orcs of Lugroth
    at war: Kingdom of Erlon, Sentinels of the Woodland, Principality of Tír Dhínin

    (written by Ciloron-Celebmîr, every error is his fault)



    Map
    Map:
    Most maps that include the lands east of Middle Earth make it look dull, there are some mountains and after that there is a sea. I made (actually making^^) a completely different map, one that was in my head for quite some time. Chrome wouldn't let me upload the pics so I had to use bloody IE
    I'm currently working on the map and hope to be able to give a first preview at the end of next week.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    light red:
    Khanate of Annûn (Rhun)
    dark red: Variag Tribes (Khand)
    grey: Barazin-Khazad Kingdom (Dwarves)
    light green: kingdom of Mellon
    brown: Orcs of Imúndûr
    blue: Republic of Calinor
    green (down-left): Gwaith-uin-Mescain (Swampmen)
    green (down center): Sentinels of the Woodland
    bordeaux: Lugroth orcs
    orange: Corsair League
    light blue (not the sea, right): Kingdom of Erlon
    dark green: Northern orcs
    yellow-brown: Vieldmunde Klanne
    blue-greyish: Principality of Tír Dhírin
    black-blue(with the island): Order of Azkhorabar
    black-grey: Urukbúrz-Hai
    Green: Kingdom of Nordmunde
    Light-blue: Wulfamundu Tribes
    Goldish: Republic of Ondyren
    Yellow: Xarhûn Empire
    Lighter orange: City Rasan
    Pink arrow: Harad invading
    Purple: Kingdom of Celeb-Edhil
    I forgot the Principality of Erebmyr here but if you want to know, it's on the two islands on the right


    I also include map_heights to give you an idea of mountains and stuff, it's a first version and needs a rework before release
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Mod team:
    lolIsuck: mod leader/creator, mapper, units (have to look into that) and probably the rest too
    Ciloron-Celebmîr: Story man, 2d art, text files

    I am not actively looking for people to help for this mod but I might harrass people so they help with the mod. Big plan is made after we have a working map
    Last edited by lolIsuck; August 26, 2012 at 05:13 PM. Reason: not an update

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    Very interesting, its not often the east is rethought. Looking forward to seeing the map and good luck.
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    Within this post you can find some general information about the major family in this mod. The two most important are the branches of the faction leaders Celebmîr(Celeb-Edhil) and Encilmion(Erlon).
    Family info
    Erlon
    King Turomen(Deceased):
    The first king of Erlon. He ruled during the First, Second and Third age. He was killed by his son Morsereg.

    Princess Teleriel:
    Wife of Turomen.

    Morsereg:
    First son of Turomen. He fell to Melkor at some time and killed his father. He was sent into exile and found the Principality of Erebmyr.

    Váne:
    Váne, the only daugther of Turomen, is also known as Herybein. It is the name she recieved from her husband, who is a prince of the Sindar. When she married him her father gave them a small western outpost, which was completely abandoned by it's residents. There they found the kingdom of Celeb-Edhil, Sindar and Avari became a new group of elves; The Silver Elves, the Celedhil. She gave birth to two sons and one daughter: Cilothár, Caladhron and Ennostiel.

    King Hwestaman(Deceased):
    Second and youngest son of Turomen. He became king after his father was killed, but not for long. Orcs invaded Tír Dhínin and laid siege to the city of Minquetal. The forces of Erlon came to aide, but were defeated and king Hwestaman was slain. Hwestaman had 2 sons, Encilmion and Myrinion.

    King Encilmion:
    Eldest son of Hwestaman. He ruled Erlon after his father died, except for the city of Myrlon, which was ruled by his brother. Encilmion is king of Erlon during the campaign setting.

    King Myrinion(Deceased):
    Second son of Hwestaman. He ruled Myrlon untill the second siege of Minquetal. Myrlon was besieged at the same time. Myrinion saved his three sons by putting them on the Royal Galley and commanding them to sail to Erlon. He himself sallied forth to meet the enemy in battle. He slew many orcs, but was killed by Lugroth, the leader of the orcs host.

    Prince Elostrion:
    Encilmion's son and heir to the throne of Erlon. He is fond of his uncle and aunt, Ciloron and Herybein, the rulers of Celeb-Edhil. He defends the passage from Tír Dhínin and wields his great-grandfather's sword.

    Prince Mircanion:
    Eldest son of Myrinion. Dies during the events of the campaign. Leads the forces stationed in the southern woodlands, also known as the Sentinels of the Woodland Realm.

    Prince Mihadril:
    Son of Myrinion and elder twin brother of Miselion. Mihadril is a great warrior and second in line for the rule of Erlon.

    Prince Miselion:
    As the youngest member of the Royal Family, Miselion feels that he needs to prove himself over and over again. He is the exact oposite of his brother, a great strategist, but not much of a warrior. He and his brother are stationed in the Woodlands.
    Celeb-Edhil
    King Celebmîr:
    Ciloron, the prince of Lórien, long forgotten by it's people and not noted in the histories of ME because he was of little importance in the west. His deeds lay in east, where he as first of the Sindar ruled over Avari in a small but powerful kingdom. Born in the old realm of Lindon as son to Celeborn and Galadriel, he has always been a travaller. After his father and mother settled in Lórien he often went out far into the wildernesses. One time he travelled to the far east and met Váne whom he fell in love with. He was named Celebmîr by Váne and he called her Herybein. When some time later they married he was crowned king of Celeb-Edhil, a kingdom with decendants from Sindar and Avari. He had two sons and one daughter, Cilothár, Caladhron and Ennostiel.

    Queen Herybein:
    Váne, the only daugther of Turomen, is also known as Herybein. It is the name she recieved from her husband, who is a prince of the Sindar. When she married him her father gave them a small western outpost, which was completely abandoned by it's residents. There they found the kingdom of Celeb-Edhil, Sindar and Avari became a new group of elves; The Silver Elves, the Celedhil. She gave birth to two sons and one daughter: Cilothár, Caladhron and Ennostiel.

    Prince Cilothár:
    Heir to Celebmîr and great under the Celedhil. He often rides out with his father to battle and is a good friend of Elostrion, his nephew.

    King Caladhron(Deceased):
    Caladhron is named after his grandmother, the Lady of Light. He was married to Atilda from Brandâran as a statement of the friendship between the two nations. From thence forth the nation of Brandâran was named Mellon, friend. He ruled wisely but got assassinated by an unknown assassin. He had one son, Caltarí the First.

    Princess Ennostiel:
    Ennostiel was born during the time her brother was assassinated. Out of fear for his daughter's life, Celebmîr gave his counselor Cirion the task of bringing her to his parents, not knowing they had departed for Valinor. Some years after, soldiers of Mellon discovered the body of Cirion pierced by Haradrim arrows. Nothing is heard of Ennostiel ever since.





    Historic Battles
    The Second Siege of Minquetal
    Ca. a decade after the first siege of Minquetal, the armies of Lugroth invaded the lands of Erlon and Tír Dhínin. Cities fell swift and the main host marched on the city of Myrlon. Meanwhile a large army laid siege to Minquetal, the capitol of Tír Dhínin. Minquetal requested help from Myrlon and Myrlon sent a decent host to Minquetal. Also arriving to the aide of Tír Dhínin was Caltarí II the king of Mellon with his army. The orcs called upon Vieldmunde to aid them and they answered the call.

    The armies faced eachother on the field, the defenders outnumbered, then a cry went up from the army of Myrlon. "Victory upon us, our ally has come to our aide!" Men in black armour slowly marched towards the armies, Azkhorabar had come. Yet Azkhorabar betrayed their allies and joined the orc army. Caught between two fires Caltarí made the decision to charge for the Vieldmunde army. The men of Vieldmunde were easily slain, but Caltarí got seperated from his guard and was slain. The armies of Myrlon, Mellon and Tír Dhínin wavered and were at breaking point.

    Then on the moment the army was about to turn around and rout, horns sounded. Horns that havent been heard since the civil war in Mellon. Faces turned north and they saw a huge army, armed in silver and riding on a white horse the proud king Celebmîr raised his spear and sounded the battlehorn. The army charged into the flank of the orcs and battered their way through to the other side. The army of Azkhorabar though was not easily beaten. The battle ended in a close victory for the forces defending Minquetal, but the battle marked the start of The Great Chaos. Caltarí was slain and a lot of land of Mellon was lost to rebellions and not far away the king of Myrlon was slain and the city fell. Azkhorabar was rising to great power.

    2. The battle of the heated plains
    3. The battle of the broken treaty
    4. The first revolutionary battle
    Last edited by Ciloron; March 05, 2012 at 01:41 PM.

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    Added pic, doesn't look chaotic enough but it will have to do for now

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    Nice project, good luck
    In which Age is this mod set?

    If it could help you, I have a pdf version of "The Atlas of Middle-Earth" by Karen Wynn Fonstad, if you need it (maybe just as inspiration, if you haven't it) I can upload it and send it to you

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    It is set about 100-200 years into the fourth age

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    I always wanted to see a mod about this place in the world.
    I see that there are some numenorean blood in the east. Does that mean that there will be an old colony of the king's men faction (since numenorean established colony everywere in middle earth)?

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    Sort of, yes

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    Cool. Have you an idea of their history already?

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    Also is numenorean in exile a faction too? or something else?

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    Ciloron is the story man. As you said yourself they established a lot of colonies and these men arrived here, the kingdom of Mellon granted them Calinor. From there they established the city of Rasan and a lot of them travelled to the lands of Azkhorabar. Loads of them got corrupted when Azkhorabar joined the dark side.
    edit: yes, Numenorean exiles was the original name of the Republic of Calinor but Ciloron comes up with these shiny names

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    I hope this mod will come out one day. You seem to have come up with a very rich story.
    Maybe after mod like the dac mod is finished, some of their team will join you.

    Edit : will you create a section on moddb?

    Edit 2 : nice names by the way. I guess also that we finally have some factions with pure numenorean blood.

    Edit 3 : lol i just found out, the easterlings are now the westerlings. funny.
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    The main idea of the story is finished, but ofcourse that isnt good enough. Now Im working out details and legends of the nations along with a decent historic background. IF this mod turns out to be a succes, we could (might) make a prequel.

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    In order to have a success, you should try to pomote the mod in more than just this place.

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    Yea well, when I have something to show I'll go to the front page guys

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    Updated post nr 3 with some family info about Erlon

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    FYI the Sentinels of the Woodland is kinda the crusading state of Erlon, they defend the southern forests against the swarms of orcs so some of the family members you see there will be in their faction
    I will update the faction info for you

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    @lolIsuck & Ciloron-Celebmîr You Have my Full support on this looks pretty nice and i hope to finally play a Mod about the mysterious lands of eastern Middle-Earth. + Rep

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    . + Rep
    And that is the basis of it.

    EDIT: Hey, content! I was wrong it seems.
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    I find the +rep a very good idea
    You know how much trouble I had making such a long post

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