Real Combat/Real Recruitment 1.4.1 by Point Blank UPDATED to 3.2 Vanilla-version 1.5 RELEASED

[Nemesis_GR]

The changelog describes what changes i made to the existing 1.4.1 RC made by Point Blank.For a complete changelog search for that thread.

Real Combat overhauls all units stats making them more realistic.This is done by using a lot of rules and formulas(check out the RC text file).Anyway bottom line is that RC=realism and balance.
Do some research or simply start playing with it and u ll understand.hf

[MadHatter007]

Unfortunately I havent been able to play many battles. I think its a problem w baron though so Im doing a clean install
The few that I did have were excellent though. Just playing battles on medium difficulty...cant just run a battalion full of silvan heavy archers at everything anymore. Now I actually have to incorporate strategy again hahaha...excellent mod from what I have seen thus far

[LethaL]

hi Nemesis, i just noticed this in Uruk Bodyguards (i´m using your last version)

type Uruk Bodyguards
dictionary Uruk_Bodyguards ; Uruk Bodyguards
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type General
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier Norse_Swordsmen, 40, 0, 1.575
mount_effect elephant -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit, general_unit
formation 1.4, 1.4, 2.8, 2.8, 4, square
stat_health 1, 2
stat_pri 8, 6, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, axe, 105, 1 ; attack 6 + 1 + 2 superior -1 BG
stat_pri_attr ap, light_spear
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 8, 10, 0, metal ; splint armor ; defense 5 - 1 impet + 2 phalanx + 1 sup + 1 BG + 1 better splint + 1 agility
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 9
stat_ground 0, -1, 0, -2
stat_mental 13, impetuous, trained
stat_charge_dist 6
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 360, 200, 75, 75, 340, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models mordor_uruks, mordor_uruks_upg
ownership england, papal_states
era 0 england, papal_states
era 1 england, papal_states
era 2 england, papal_states
recruit_priority_offset 5

is that intended cause ingame they use swords and a shield...if not can you tell me what should be the right stats??

thks

[Nemesis_GR]

There was a bug with the uruk bodyguards because i hadnt noticed that in the original RC version for tatw 1.4 they were halberdiers or something.I fixed the bug so the game doesnt crush but i haven't released the completely fixed version.
Anyway I am fixing them right now.

Edit:i attach the fixed edu-copy paste in the data folder.hf

[Nemesis_GR]

1.4 is only for vannilla and includes the changed armor system.Also dl the fix i posted above.If u play with baron's get the 1.3 baron's version.hf

[Moritol]

Thx and +rep, starting a new game as Isengart now. Besides those rebel bandits hiding in the Eriador territory still
have the wrong shield stats, but as long as the mercs have the right ones it's fine.

[Nemesis_GR]

I have released a couple bug fixes so maybe i missed something.I ll do some checking and release a bug-free 1.4 ver later today/tomorrow.hf

ps.everything is savegame compatible.
ps2.some feedback on isengard units would be welcome

[Moritol]

I corrected the bandits stats for both Eriador and merc.
5 agility and 3 shield - 8 instead of 7 now, don't want to reduce their agility further .
Upload is above:

Attachment 214668

The EDU was from your latest upload from this page, not from the front page.

[Maedhros.]

so this game has all units from 1.4 and 3.1 and the Barons all in one?

[Nemesis_GR]

This RC version includes all 3.1 vanilla units and the baron's version also includes the AUM units.

ps.I am taking a break from tatw(rl-skyrim) so that's why i haven't updated the version's.I hope i ll get some time on easter holidays.hf all

[IGORynich]

HI all
pls hepl, I have a Baron is 5.0, so that's a bug Uruk Bodyguards, they do not move, just stand and all

[IGORynich]

HI all
pls help, I have a Baron is 5.0, so that's a bug Uruk Bodyguards, they do not move, just stand and all

[Mhaedros]

Why would you post that in the RC thread???

[Andor Vex]

I have been playing TATW with this submod for some time now and I think it balances the units quite nicely. There's one tiny problem I've discovered lately. While playing as Dale against Mordor I noticed that trolls (especially Olog-Hai) are ridiculously difficult to take down with missile units. I mainly tried with Rivermen. In one instance i had 6 full units throwing at once against a marching unit and none of them fell.
So I decided to try out how other factions fared and the results with every javelin or crossbow unit were roughly the same. In better cases you would get a few down before they engage in melee and that's it. After that you just pray that a heavy inf. unit will take them down with bug bites.

So, does anyone have any ideas on strategies I could use or tweaks I could perform to balance things a little?

[muller227]

I have been playing TATW with this submod for some time now and I think it balances the units quite nicely. There's one tiny problem I've discovered lately. While playing as Dale against Mordor I noticed that trolls (especially Olog-Hai) are ridiculously difficult to take down with missile units. I mainly tried with Rivermen. In one instance i had 6 full units throwing at once against a marching unit and none of them fell.
So I decided to try out how other factions fared and the results with every javelin or crossbow unit were roughly the same. In better cases you would get a few down before they engage in melee and that's it. After that you just pray that a heavy inf. unit will take them down with bug bites.

So, does anyone have any ideas on strategies I could use or tweaks I could perform to balance things a little?

Olag Hai Armor is pretty high 17 I think, javelins and crossbow are only 11 and do not have ap which is why you have to take them down with infantry. Dalesmen could warm them up for you but Barding Hird is the way to go with these guys.

[dagg929]

What exactly does this do? Does this do the same thing as the original RC, as in compile a bunch of mods and balance the combat units? I looked through the original topic, too, and I'm still a little boggled.

What exactly will this do with Baron's compilation/add?

Thanks and +rep to whoever answers.

[dagg929]

Is this save game compatible? It looks like it is working, but I have no clue if the stats actually changed or not.

[Seraph07]

Im assuming RC and Permanent Projectiles dont work togethor. Can I change the values of RC or permanent projecticles descr_projectile to make them compatible?

[Gallus]

will you also make a version for MOS when it comes out?

[Emperor of Hell]

MOS includes RC