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    Default Islamists win Egypt elections...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16665748


    This "Arab Spring" seems more and more dangerous.


    I wonder what this means for Israel? Another potential enemy to be wary of?
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    That's democracy,man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnite Soldier View Post
    That's democracy,man...
    Agreed, BUT the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood should not be conflated with a group like Hizballah, they are broadly parliamentarian and don't seem to have theocratic aspirations. Whether that is a temporary strategy to gain power... we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Illusionist View Post
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16665748


    This "Arab Spring" seems more and more dangerous.


    I wonder what this means for Israel? Another potential enemy to be wary of?
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    I hope they enjoy all the Religious police beatings, and cultural cooperation with Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    DarkLordSeth told me it was impossible ...

    I hope they enjoy all the Religious police beatings, and cultural cooperation with Iran.
    I thought Arabs and persians hated each other, also the Shia, Shi'tte thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluttershy View Post
    I thought Arabs and persians hated each other, also the Shia, Shi'tte thing...
    Islamists are equal opportunity oppressors, they just disagree about who is going to be in charge of the oppressing. Don't worry.

    Meanwhile in Lybia

    Libyan Islamists rally to demand sharia-based law
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...80J23G20120120
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    Default Re: Islamists win Egypt elections...

    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    Islamists are equal opportunity oppressors, they just disagree about who is going to be in charge of the oppressing. Don't worry.

    Meanwhile in Lybia

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...80J23G20120120
    I have another quotation from that article for you:
    Nour al-Zintani, a participant in the month-long sit-in for a secular state, said the majority of Libyans wanted Islam to be a part of their life but not a strict interpretation of it.

    "We all want sharia," she said, standing next to her teenage daughter, both of them wearing a Muslim headscarf, "but not the one they're talking about, the one that rejects women. We want a moderate Islam that gives women their rights."

    "For what it’s worth: it’s never too late to be whoever you want to be. I hope you live a life you’re proud of, and if you find that you’re not, I hope you have the strength to start all over again."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluttershy View Post
    I thought Arabs and persians hated each other, also the Shia, Shi'tte thing...
    Surely you mean Sunni - Shia conflict?

    The Muslim Brotherhood was opposed to Mubarak for a long time and was marginalised, so it isn't too surprising that their party won. Domestically they don't seem too extreme (I don't think they'll turn Egypt into Saudi Arabia) but I just hope a lot of the rhetoric concerning Israel was just to win popular support; we'll have to judge them by their actions and not their words.
    Strangely enough, from what I have read the more socially conservative Islamic Al-Nour party seems to have a more diplomatic approach to Israel than the FJP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    I hope they enjoy all the Religious police beatings, and cultural cooperation with Iran.
    The Salafists despise Shia Muslims, I don't see why they would even consider co-operating with Iran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    DarkLordSeth told me it was impossible ...

    I hope they enjoy all the Religious police beatings, and cultural cooperation with Iran.
    Nope, I didn't.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Illusionist View Post
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16665748

    This "Arab Spring" seems more and more dangerous.

    I wonder what this means for Israel? Another potential enemy to be wary of?
    If this is dangerous then you need to accept that so is democracy because this is what democracy is. They're not gonna turn overnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Illusionist View Post
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16665748


    This "Arab Spring" seems more and more dangerous.


    I wonder what this means for Israel? Another potential enemy to be wary of?
    Radical Christians regularly win American elections, but I rarely hear people talk about the danger of that occurring.

    The Brotherhood isn't especially radical, all things considered. Its unlikely they'll be any worse than Mubarak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopy View Post
    Radical Christians regularly win American elections, but I rarely hear people talk about the danger of that occurring.

    The Brotherhood isn't especially radical, all things considered. Its unlikely they'll be any worse than Mubarak.

    Their non-violent, which is good. But I think a more secular government would be far better. Basing your rules on a book written 2000 years ago (whether it is the Bible or the Quraan) just seems stupid...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopy View Post
    Radical Christians regularly win American elections, but I rarely hear people talk about the danger of that occurring.

    The Brotherhood isn't especially radical, all things considered. Its unlikely they'll be any worse than Mubarak.
    This...still makes me sad though, women should get the right to vote lol

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    There will, most certainly, be a 'crusade' in a very different form than we have ever seen within the next 50 years.

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    Time for the pope to gather his armies and free the suez canal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Illusionist View Post
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16665748


    This "Arab Spring" seems more and more dangerous.


    I wonder what this means for Israel? Another potential enemy to be wary of?
    who cares about israel? it's about egypt here

    anyway, nothing seem to have changed there, the military is still boss there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
    who cares about israel? it's about egypt here
    Because as much as I am a strong critic of Israel, any kind of war there doesn't serve any people's interests, apart from the extremist governments and their lobbyists on both sides.

    Considering Mubarak was propped up by Uncle Sam for a reason, could get real if the Muslim Brotherhood decides to intervene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Illusionist View Post
    Because as much as I am a strong critic of Israel, any kind of war there doesn't serve any people's interests, apart from the extremist governments and their lobbyists on both sides.

    Considering Mubarak was propped up by Uncle Sam for a reason, could get real if the Muslim Brotherhood decides to intervene.
    iran didn't go to war with israel, what makes you think the bro hood will go for it?

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    And the panicking begins over a party that vaguely resembles an Arab version of the Republican party as far as values goes. I love it, the hysteria will sustain me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motiv-8 View Post
    And the panicking begins over a party that vaguely resembles an Arab version of the Republican party as far as values goes. I love it, the hysteria will sustain me.
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