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    http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.c...do-with-it/?hp

    What’s Race Got to Do With It?

    By LEE SIEGEL
    Jon Moe/Associated Press
    Mitt Romney, a Republican presidential candidate, with his extended family in 2007.
    Mitt Romney may not have officially clinched the Republican nomination, but his victory has never really been in doubt. Nor has his viability in November: the most fanatical Tea Partiers are not about to withhold their votes and risk allowing President Obama to be re-elected.


    Pundits have already begun the endless debate over whether Mr. Romney’s wealth and religion are hindrances or assets. But there has yet to be any discussion over the one quality that has subtly fueled his candidacy thus far and could well put him over the top in the fall: his race. The simple, impolitely stated fact is that Mitt Romney is the whitest white man to run for president in recent memory.


    Of course, I’m not talking about a strict count of melanin density. I’m referring to the countless subtle and not-so-subtle ways he telegraphs to a certain type of voter that he is the cultural alternative to America’s first black president. It is a whiteness grounded in a retro vision of the country, one of white picket fences and stay-at-home moms and fathers unashamed of working hard for corporate America.
    Note: Siegel is Jewish.

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    So now white obama is too white?
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    Race has nothing do to with why he would be bad as a president. Is Obama too black? Both have Goldman Sachs as their largest donors and that alone should tell you why they are not fit as presidents.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wis View Post
    Race has nothing do to with why he would be bad as a president. Is Obama too black? Both have Goldman Sachs as their largest donors and that alone should tell you why they are not fit as presidents.

    Do you not realize that Goldman sachs donates money to every candidate that has a chance at the white house?

    They give money to everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Scott View Post
    Do you not realize that Goldman sachs donates money to every candidate that has a chance at the white house?

    They give money to everyone.
    Not to Ron Paul and other people who oppose K-street. Obama continued the bailouts and handed money down the pockets to JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs etc. So they could give themselves a nice bonus. The Obama administration also blocked investigations into Goldman Sachs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h29_8yg5UZk <-- CNN newsreel.

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    @wis Agreed, really the major difference between him and BO is their foreign policy, Romney is more of a warmongerer. I think of him as a kind of neocon/Rockefeller Republican hybrid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wis View Post
    Not to Ron Paul and other people who oppose K-street. Obama continued the bailouts and handed money down the pockets to JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs etc. So they could give themselves a nice bonus. The Obama administration also blocked investigations into Goldman Sachs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h29_8yg5UZk <-- CNN newsreel.
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2f83d4e-4...#axzz1jszGVnEa

    They had massive pay cuts and losses.
    that includes a striking 2,400 subtraction in headcount and a 21 per cent reduction in employee pay – including bonuses paid to its bankers.
    So cmon people. Enough with the "banks control the government" nonsense. The only reason the Feds give banks money in the QE's is because banks are the bedrock to a successful economy. Their success and failure carries on into all crevices of the economy. Just look at 1930. The Feds failed to save the banks and the result was a depression. Sure, lobbying does probably have an effect on federal economic policy. But not nearly to the severity some people make it out to be.

    They don't give money to Ron Paul because, frankly, he doesn't have a Popsicle's chance in hell of winning. Personally, I find Paul's foreign policy frightening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsunegari View Post
    @wis Agreed, really the major difference between him and BO is their foreign policy, Romney is more of a warmongerer. I think of him as a kind of neocon/Rockefeller Republican hybrid.
    And fiscal policy. Romney has business experience directly in the fields relating to effective fiscal management and investment.

    Seeing how the president has massive power over the budget, few candidates come close to the credentials Romney has. Certainly not Mr. Obama.

    And in foreign policy, I would think Romney would be rather utilitarian. So more willing to fight than Obama, but not as emotionally motivated as Bush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Scott View Post
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2f83d4e-4...#axzz1jszGVnEa

    They had massive pay cuts and losses.


    So cmon people. Enough with the "banks control the government" nonsense. The only reason the Feds give banks money in the QE's is because banks are the bedrock to a successful economy. Their success and failure carries on into all crevices of the economy. Just look at 1930. The Feds failed to save the banks and the result was a depression. Sure, lobbying does probably have an effect on federal economic policy. But not nearly to the severity some people make it out to be.

    They don't give money to Ron Paul because, frankly, he doesn't have a Popsicle's chance in hell of winning. Personally, I find Paul's foreign policy frightening.



    And fiscal policy. Romney has business experience directly in the fields relating to effective fiscal management and investment.

    Seeing how the president has massive power over the budget, few candidates come close to the credentials Romney has. Certainly not Mr. Obama.

    And in foreign policy, I would think Romney would be rather utilitarian. So more willing to fight than Obama, but not as emotionally motivated as Bush.
    The Bank lobbyist have nothing do to with bailouts and tarp. JUST LIKE THE MPAA and Hollywood had nothing to do with SOPA/PIPA RIGHT? You do know that quite a few politicians go to K-street to work as lobbyists after they retire or are voted out from office right?
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    And fiscal policy. Romney has business experience directly in the fields relating to effective fiscal management and investment.

    Seeing how the president has massive power over the budget, few candidates come close to the credentials Romney has. Certainly not Mr. Obama.

    And in foreign policy, I would think Romney would be rather utilitarian. So more willing to fight than Obama, but not as emotionally motivated as Bush.
    Yeah that sounds like a Rockefeller Republican type, but my impression is that he is broadly in agreement with Obama's domestic agenda (which hasn't been a radical departure from that of recent Republicans).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Scott View Post
    And fiscal policy. Romney has business experience directly in the fields relating to effective fiscal management and investment.

    Seeing how the president has massive power over the budget, few candidates come close to the credentials Romney has. .
    "The other Republicans onstage didn’t dare ask the question that ran through my mind as I watched this performance: How, exactly, did almost 25 years with Bain prepare Romney for the presidency?

    Consider what we want a president to be: a visionary who can articulate a common purpose that unites fractious interest groups; a master negotiator who can advance America’s interests in the world, as well as push his policies past the combined resistance of lobbyists and his congressional opponents; a bold, decisive leader who can shepherd the country through crises; and a master manager who can keep his vast staff of experts—and the world’s largest employer—operating smoothly.

    Now consider what a consultant does. Consultants are, as any firm will tell you, the “best and the brightest,” culled from elite undergraduate and graduate programs. But they rarely lead anything larger than a small team; the average Army second lieutenant nine months out of a third-tier state college probably has more direct reports, and more deliverables.

    Moreover, a consultant’s voice is not the voice of direct experience; most of the problems that consultants analyze are ones they have never faced. And although consultants asking for your business may talk about the trove of industry intelligence they have to share, in practice, the sharing is limited: contracts forbid sharing anything really juicy, and some firms work with only one client per sector at a time. In fact, the arguments for hiring a consultant are often the same as those for seeing a psychiatrist...

    ...Moreover, when consultants are accountable for results, they don’t necessarily shine. “Consultants are notoriously pretty bad managers of their own companies,” says Stewart. “They tend to think that ‘managing people’ means managing people who are very similar to you, in small numbers.” Indeed, in some ways, managing a company of consultants more closely resembles managing the prom committee than it does running a concern that churns out widgets at $62.50 per gross ton with a staff of high-school graduates who are counting the hours until Friday. "


    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...business/8718/
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    He's lost the Hispanic vote and African Americans tend to either vote Democrat or not at all, sinc ethe politicians in the country ( including Obama) are completely out of touch with the community...
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    This is a retarded thread coming from a retarded article. What are we even suppose to make of this? Hes culturally "white"? He's considered a moderate, so I suppose in this instance white isnt synonymous with conservative. Then what in the hell does it mean? Barring the obviously very racialized culture of blacks, there is little cultural distinction between a white guy and anyone else in America. If this is suppose to be mean, in a very ridiculous way, that white is referencing some posh ivy league attitude...Obama is the epitome of that. So on and so on, I literally can not even discern the meaning of what this fool is attempting to say.

    If its a demographic concern, I cant see Romney doing much differently than any recent Republican. To be honest he only needs something like 60% of the white vote and he can sweep the entire nation, so, whatever.
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    Default Re: Mitt Romney- Too White?

    I think it's probably about time we got over the colour of someone as an initial judgement of cultural, ethical a social outlook.

    It seems a little...silly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Scott View Post
    Do you not realize that Goldman sachs donates money to every candidate that has a chance at the white house?

    They give money to everyone.
    I believe this is true, but I've never read anything to prove it. Do you have any evidence to support that claim?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Illusionist View Post
    He's lost the Hispanic vote and African Americans tend to either vote Democrat or not at all, sinc ethe politicians in the country ( including Obama) are completely out of touch with the community...
    Agreed, none of the US politicians can identify with the middle-class community because they've been disconnected for so long. People vote Democrat because they believe they're more in touch, but fail to realize that they're just as money driven.

    Quote Originally Posted by esaciar View Post
    I think it's probably about time we got over the colour of someone as an initial judgement of cultural, ethical a social outlook.

    It seems a little...silly?
    It's not only silly but inaccurate.

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    The simple, impolitely stated fact is that Mitt Romney is the whitest white man to run for president in recent memory
    How do they measure this whiteness? And more importantly is there a metric conversion?

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    Class name - Mitt Romney! sounds like some Alien character from the old Star Trek series!! lol

    You yanks get some really unusual names not like the UK with the usual boring names like John, Peter, David, Simon etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToonTotalWar View Post
    Class name - Mitt Romney! sounds like some Alien character from the old Star Trek series!! lol

    You yanks get some really unusual names not like the UK with the usual boring names like John, Peter, David, Simon etc..
    His name is Willard.

    Although I read a pretty hilarious article about how like 2% of adults surveyed thought Mitt was short for the "name" "Mittens".

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    Quote Originally Posted by John I Tzimisces View Post
    His name is Willard.

    Although I read a pretty hilarious article about how like 2% of adults surveyed thought Mitt was short for the "name" "Mittens".
    Willard, wasn't that a movie about a man who's only friends with rats?

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    Given that Goldman Sachs is the top contributor to both Romney and Obama and that their policies are pretty much the same, the election will come down to skin color. This is the choice you get America. Lets leave the important issues to the politicians and bankers. You get to choose the color of the packaging!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enemy of the State View Post
    Given that Goldman Sachs is the top contributor to both Romney and Obama and that their policies are pretty much the same, the election will come down to skin color. This is the choice you get America. Lets leave the important issues to the politicians and bankers. You get to choose the color of the packaging!
    Hahaha! The last line is killer.

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