American Girl With The Dragon Tattoo vs Original Swedish Version?

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    Krieglord said: January 18, 2012 06:58 PM

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    Just wondering which version twc prefers

    Personally I prefer the original Swedish version the story makes alot more sense and it leads up to the other two movies in the millennium series so far ive seen the girl with the dragon tattoo and the girl who kicked the hornets nest I still need to see the girl who played with fire.

    The American version had the benefit of big name actors and they added in a bit more action but the story didnt work as well compared to the original.


     

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    abbews said: January 19, 2012 02:00 AM

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    The Swedish one, definitely.
     

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    Jaketh said: January 19, 2012 02:45 AM

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    I havent seen the swedish version but my friend who saw both says he preferred the American version overall
     

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    abbews said: January 19, 2012 03:36 AM

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    The American version portrays Mikael Nyqvist better, but that's pretty much it. Salander is way better in the Swedish version. And I hate the goddamn Swedish accents in the American version.

    Jaketh, I recommend you see the Swedish version so you can have an opinion of your own.
     

  5. Krieglord's Avatar

    Krieglord said: January 19, 2012 10:02 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbews View Post
    The American version portrays Mikael Nyqvist better, but that's pretty much it. Salander is way better in the Swedish version. And I hate the goddamn Swedish accents in the American version.

    Jaketh, I recommend you see the Swedish version so you can have an opinion of your own.

    Personally I prefer the swedish version of Mikael

    The one actor I really liked in the american version was stellen skarsgard as Martin Vanger over Peter Haber


     

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    Timur Amir said: January 19, 2012 10:11 PM

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    I haven't seen the US version yet. Any plot differences?
     

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    Krieglord said: January 19, 2012 10:18 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timur Amir View Post
    I haven't seen the US version yet. Any plot differences?
    They focused the story alot more on Lizbeth in the American version and they cut the story down in favour of more action and suspense scenes.
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    Dr. Croccer said: January 19, 2012 05:05 AM

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    Swedish one.
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    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
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    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones
     

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    florin87 said: January 19, 2012 05:29 AM

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    the swedish one.

    american remakes of european films usually suck really hard.

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    the_mango55 said: January 20, 2012 12:02 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by florin87 View Post
    the swedish one.

    american remakes of european films usually suck really hard.
    That's only because European films suck in general.

    There's only so much you can do with a steaming pile
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    Dr. Croccer said: January 20, 2012 10:40 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55
    That's only because European films suck in general.

    There's only so much you can do with a steaming pile


    You can switch out of incoherent patriotic knee-jerk defense mode now.

    Unless you're seriously going to claim that the Millenium trilogy was a ''steaming pile'', and became one of the most best-selling books of all time, and spawning a movie series which has similarly been extremely successful in spite of it.

    The only thing the American version has are a few good actors (Stellen Skarsgard and Daniel Craig) but the rest is mediocre, and watered. They've clealry tried to make it Hollywood-ish and it failed.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones
     

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    athanaric said: January 22, 2012 07:11 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreiglord View Post
    [...] and they cut the story down in favour of more action and suspense scenes.
    IOW, typical Hollywood nonsense. I like their choice of actors though.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Unless you're seriously going to claim that the Millenium trilogy was a ''steaming pile'', and became one of the most best-selling books of all time, and spawning a movie series which has similarly been extremely successful in spite of it.
    Well THB, the books aren't what you'd call great literature. They're full of redundant scenes (for example the umpteenth sex scene between the male protagonist, who's clearly a sexed-up author avatar, and some random woman). Also the delusional ultra-feminist rants, mostly in the third volume (as a Scythian enthusiast, I also hate the crap he told about the so-called Amazons). Might be "in character", but even then it'd be redundant. The suspense is good though. The Swedish adaptation was good enough for me. Some weaknesses, but overall close to the original.

    And yeah, American remakes. Whatcha gonna do. Your own fault if you watch them.
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    Dr. Croccer said: January 22, 2012 12:20 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    Well THB, the books aren't what you'd call great literature. They're full of redundant scenes (for example the umpteenth sex scene between the male protagonist, who's clearly a sexed-up author avatar, and some random woman). Also the delusional ultra-feminist rants, mostly in the third volume (as a Scythian enthusiast, I also hate the crap he told about the so-called Amazons). Might be "in character", but even then it'd be redundant. The suspense is good though. The Swedish adaptation was good enough for me. Some weaknesses, but overall close to the original.
    The plot wasn't that grounded to start with, but the suspense is what I liked. It was well-written even if the actual content was a bit bananas at times.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones
     

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    frozenprince said: June 13, 2012 11:28 PM

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    Unless you're seriously going to claim that the Millenium trilogy was a ''steaming pile'', and became one of the most best-selling books of all time, and spawning a movie series which has similarly been extremely successful in spite of it.


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    Kanaric said: June 13, 2012 11:17 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by florin87 View Post
    the swedish one.

    american remakes of european films usually suck really hard.
    Implying that you never seen the american version then voting without seeing it?
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    Claudius Gothicus said: January 19, 2012 10:50 PM

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    The swedish one, even though I'm a fan of Daniel Craig the Swedish one is the real deal.

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    Manco said: January 20, 2012 04:18 AM

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    American films also suck in general, they just have good production values and huge advertising budgets.
    Some day I'll actually write all the reviews I keep promising...
     

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    Manco said: January 20, 2012 11:37 AM

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    The Millennium-trilogy films were pretty much a steaming pile though. Or at least nothing special.
    If it wasn't for Noomi Rapace's performance, no one would even be talking about them.
    Some day I'll actually write all the reviews I keep promising...
     

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    Dr. Croccer said: January 20, 2012 12:20 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manco View Post
    The Millennium-trilogy films were pretty much a steaming pile though. Or at least nothing special.
    If it wasn't for Noomi Rapace's performance, no one would even be talking about them.
    I thought the acting was quite good, and I liked the suspense.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones
     

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    bushbush said: January 20, 2012 12:55 PM

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    I will check out the Swedish original this weekend. I enjoyed the American one thus far because Rooney Mara (playing Lis in the US version) is soooooo adorable. (My gf looks like her so I have been calling her "lis" all week hahah)
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