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    Default Libya militias clash in Gharyan near Tripoli

    A weekend of clashes in Libya has left at least two people dead and more than 40 injured.

    Rival armed groups fired rockets and heavy machine guns around the town of Gharyan, about 80km (50 miles) south of the capital, Tripoli.

    The Libyan authorities say they are now raising a force to disarm what they say are Gaddafi loyalists.

    Local officials in Gharyan told the BBC they were powerless to control some of their own revolutionary brigades.
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    Oh boys, I wonder why no one posted this? Where are all our Arab Spring supporters now?

    Anyway, I think this year would be particularly fun for Libyans, especially after the election which is going to be hold in the end of this year.
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    There's probably going to be some instability there for a while
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    Default Re: Libya militias clash in Gharyan near Tripoli

    An extract story about the atrocities rebels committed after the war.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16051349

    And more about Al Quaeda activity in Libya now.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16599725
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    Default Re: Libya militias clash in Gharyan near Tripoli

    Not the first time rival groups have clashed since victory was declared. I remember there was an incident between government troops and militia from the Western mountains over control of an airport not too long ago.
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    Default Re: Libya militias clash in Gharyan near Tripoli

    It is surely prudent to assume there will be repercussions and long held animosity in such a political/cultural/social/sectarian tinderbox?

    To suppose that revolution is a path paved with gold and good wishes is a little naive.

    America needed a Civil War to banish her discordance with the power vacuum that remained, as did England.

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    Dear lord. People honestly believe that immediately after a Civil War is finished things are going to be all bright and magical? Pro-tip, it's not, it could be upwards of 20 years before we see real Western like stability in any of North Africa, (besides maybe Morocco.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inconsistent View Post
    Dear lord. People honestly believe that immediately after a Civil War is finished things are going to be all bright and magical? Pro-tip, it's not, it could be upwards of 20 years before we see real Western like stability in any of North Africa, (besides maybe Morocco.)
    Hasn't/wont stopped people from crying about Iraq.

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    They've been gunning each other down for months now. The NTC has already admitted they cannot disarm the groups.

    There is also a humanitarian crisis developing in the prisons where migrant workers and everyday black Libyans are held on charges of being "Gaddafi mercenaries", a claim that has been proven to be false time and time again. They are being held by the various hardline militias that the NTC has no control over.

    On a more comedic note, the Zintan brigade stole an elephant from the Tripoli zoo and brought it back to their hometown as a prize. Most of the rebels are a bunch of clowns.
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    Bad things happening in "Not our problem anymore"... good thing its not our problem anymore

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    There is a power vacuum, so it is pretty much a game of the strongest warlord wins(becomes dictator).

    More fighting a couple of weeks ago http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...el-groups.html

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    how can this be? al jazeera english in all their objectivity and impartiality led me to believe that libya was so much better now and that qatar and its emir are movers and shakers and that nothing bad at all could happen from the libyan civil war.

    /sarcasm

    lol don't all those 'R2P' douchebags from sarkozy to hilary face cliton and The Leader Of The Free World himself looks like such sorry little idiots.

    clearly, all that 'leading from behind' and bombing the and arming ex-al qaeda gangsters was clearly an improvement from the Bush doctrine.
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    Anyway, the conclusion is that Arab Spring is 90% failure.

    Meanwhile, torture is adopted by supposely freedom fighters.

    The BBC has seen evidence that a man was tortured and killed in detention, after clashes between rival militia groups in Libya at the weekend.

    Members of Izzedine al-Ghool's family say he was accused of siding with the regime of the late Muammar Gaddafi.

    Former rebel commanders say they have opened a new front to disarm Gaddafi loyalists holding out around Gharyan, 80km (50 miles) south of Tripoli.

    At least nine people were killed in last week's fighting, officials say.

    Interim Prime Minister Abdurrahim al-Keib and Defence Minister Osama al-Juweili visited the area in an effort to halt the violence.
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    Where is no-flying zone again?
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    Default Re: Libya militias clash in Gharyan near Tripoli

    We Italians should invade those idiots again

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    Default Re: Libya militias clash in Gharyan near Tripoli

    It's hardly surprising that such incidents can occur after a civil war. Hopefully the new Government manages to restore order and prevent the clashes from escalating into something bigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralle18 View Post
    Hopefully the new Government manages to restore order and prevent the clashes from escalating into something bigger.
    Currently is still not too bad but I feel situation would turn worse once president election is finished...
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    We Italians should invade those idiots again
    Excuse me you Italians could not keep control of your own bloody country. try sorting out your own sham of a kip before stomping around and shagging up other countries like the majority of your government have already done.


    There is instability, and there are going to be clashes. My biggest worry is the rumour that Libyans with dual citizenship must choose to be either Libyan or the other nationality. If choosing the other nationality, you are not entitled to vote. Hopefully that rumour is quashed.

    Regards to the torture accusations, I have not heard any definitive reports and journalists are allowed into the country at their own will. There are no restrictions on the media in Libya. Nor is there a secret police force breathing down everyone's neck. This is a vast improvement from my point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adhamh Ashashi View Post
    Regards to the torture accusations, I have not heard any definitive reports and journalists are allowed into the country at their own will. There are no restrictions on the media in Libya. Nor is there a secret police force breathing down everyone's neck. This is a vast improvement from my point of view.
    You should be worried that if BBC can actually find out those torture even not in their own will, how many torture cases actually been hidden without be discovered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    You should be worried that if BBC can actually find out those torture even not in their own will, how many torture cases actually been hidden without be discovered.
    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    You should be worried that if BBC can actually find out those torture even not in their own will, how many torture cases actually been hidden without be discovered.
    A bit of a moot point considering that Britain exported people to the Gaddafy regime so they could be tortured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davide.cool View Post
    We Italians should invade those idiots again
    Yes definitely, make sure you bring back your concentration camps with you as well.

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