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    Just created this thread for discussion about the legalization of drugs, in any aspect you may want to point out. Do you agree or not? What reasons do you think should be considered in order to choose which drugs would be legal? You think there should be more legal substances or even less (forbid alcohol and tobacco, for example)? Share your opinion and let's discuss!

    (I've put this in Political Academy because it seemed the most related to the subject, since the forbiddance of many drugs had something to do with political and economic interests).

    Oh, and if there is already one regarding this subject I'm sorry, I probably missed it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindOverdrive View Post
    Just created this thread for discussion about the legalization of drugs, in any aspect you may want to point out. Do you agree or not? What reasons do you think should be considered in order to choose which drugs would be legal? You think there should be more legal substances or even less (forbid alcohol and tobacco, for example)? Share your opinion and let's discuss!

    (I've put this in Political Academy because it seemed the most related to the subject, since the forbiddance of many drugs had something to do with political and economic interests).

    Oh, and if there is already one regarding this subject I'm sorry, I probably missed it...
    If its equal to or not as bad as alcohol it should not be banned.

    I feel that marijuana is in that category.
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    MJ like alcohol can be abused so either both should be banned or neither.

    Heroin, crack etc should never be legalized. They are dangerous on a whole other level.

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    How many of these threads have we had now?
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    Marijuana can be legalized as long as it's taxed like alcohol and cigarettes[which should be banned] and suffers from the same provisions as cigarettes.


    And anyone who does "weed culture" and spends there time saying 420 should be jailed for being an arse.
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    You want to ban alcohol matt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    You want to ban alcohol matt?
    In my opinion, since pot is not legal, alcohol should not too, since the first is less damaging than the second.

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    Didn't the USA try that in the 1920's? Didn't work out so well

    Rather then wishing alcohol is banned, why not just wish that pot isn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mindOverdrive View Post
    In my opinion, since pot is not legal, alcohol should not too, since the first is less damaging than the second.
    Agreed.

    Especially since hard liquor exists and 4loco. Really you can lace weed with anything to make it more potent then that product is not marijuana but another illegal drug.
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    I don't know to what extent hard drugs should be legalized, but I do know they must be decriminalized. Marijuana should be as legal as alcohol.
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    You want to ban alcohol matt?
    No i meant just cigarettes, sorry that was confusing.
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    The french left already got legalization of pot in their directive. When France crosses the line, Europe and the western world will quickly aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch View Post
    The french left already got legalization of pot in their directive. When France crosses the line, Europe and the western world will quickly aswell.
    Which party?

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    The war on drugs is a failure just as the war on alcohol was a failure during prohibition. Prohibition gave rise to the Mobster, the drug cartel and streets are growing and earning more and more money from drugs. in the USA it should be up to the states if they want to legalize drugs or not. The biggest lobbyist against the drug legalization are the pharmaceutical corporations.

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    Ron Paul "The Drug War Has Killed More People Than The Drugs!" pt.3
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    Ron Paul "The Drug War Has Killed More People Than The Drugs!" pt.5
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    The only reason marijuana has not yet been legalized is because it's always been a bit of a piecemeal operation; the tobacco industry is organized and has had a focus on lobbying from the outset.

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    I'm a firm Libertarian. If you want to up your own body by pumping it with narcotics, by all means do so. Why spend money on trying to stop something we'll never stop when you can make money off of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weary One View Post
    I'm a firm Libertarian. If you want to up your own body by pumping it with narcotics, by all means do so. Why spend money on trying to stop something we'll never stop when you can make money off of it?
    Alcohol s up your body a lot more. Just saying.

    And I agree with you on the second part. Through legalization the dealers' power would be substantially decreased, and the government could even get his share and profit with taxes like it does with tobacco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindOverdrive View Post
    Alcohol s up your body a lot more. Just saying.

    And I agree with you on the second part. Through legalization the dealers' power would be substantially decreased, and the government could even get his share and profit with taxes like it does with tobacco.
    I don't know, cocaine, heroin, and meth can mess you up way more than alcohol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weary One View Post
    I don't know, cocaine, heroin, and meth can mess you up way more than alcohol.
    There was a study from Bristol University some time ago.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    As you can see, the harm caused by alcohol to the user is bigger than the one caused by cocaine. Meth and heroin have similar damage to the users, which is somewhat bigger than the one caused by alcohol, but not much.

    Here's some piece of news from the time this study was released:

    http://www.bris.ac.uk/news/2007/5367.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindOverdrive View Post
    There was a study from Bristol University some time ago.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    As you can see, the harm caused by alcohol to the user is bigger than the one caused by cocaine. Meth and heroin have similar damage to the users, which is somewhat bigger than the one caused by alcohol, but not much.

    Here's some piece of news from the time this study was released:

    http://www.bris.ac.uk/news/2007/5367.html
    Looks like they forgot to adjust for population size.
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