When will the mp campaing desync be fixed ?

**leSith** · January 15, 2012, 07:53 AM

This bug has been out since mp campaing release in ETW.

Although it was "ok" in ETW as it was a Beta, it has to be removed at least for STW2 and RoTS.

I remember that CA talked about it few month ago but still no fix.

When will they remove it, did they even work on it ?

It's game breaking as you enjoy the campaing until turn 80 and then you have to exchange savegame almost every single turn.

We were enjoying a campaing of RoST and now we take a break playing red alert 3 in coop as we have to exchange our save games every turn or every 2 turns.

It s the most frustrating bug in total war series now, you enjoy early to mid campaing and then the of the campaign is just a suffering.

I m not use to rant for nothing or tiny details but this one is game breaking IMHO. Especially as I only play in MP campaign and it s the reason I bought NTW and STW2 from day 1.

Come on we have been waiting it for almost 10 years don t give up on the MP campaign now !

Please Craig give us an answer on this one.

It ll be much appreciate. There are even threads on steam forum advising not to buy the game for playing in coop - versus campaigns because of this bug .

**emotion_name** · January 15, 2012, 09:59 AM

Yeah, they added some cool features like Unit Sharing and so on, but none of it is worth a damn when the MPC wont work!

Myself and my friends have never managed to get past turn 92, in about 8 attempts, even save sharing doesnt help. 92 turns is our best as well, usually its about turn 50 or so it starts playing up, and this is on S2TW and RoTS. Its strange though, coz on NTW i never ever had 1 MPC desynch, but i know of loads of people who did.

My biggest annoyance is it seems they removed Hotseats to focus on MPC, and MPC just doesnt work. At least with Hotseats you could play a WHOLE CAMPAIGN, alright having to auto resolve all battles isnt the best way of fighting, but its better than not being able to play at all.

I doubt it will be fixed for FotS as well, dunno why just got a feeling CA wont address the desynch issue until the next TW game, not for an expansion.

This is why i always nag CA to include both Hotseats and MPC though, alas it falls on deaf ears and i am stuck with not being able to enjoy an MPC!

**CptAustus** · January 15, 2012, 05:28 PM

If it was a minor or simple error, it would have been fixed by now. Its probably something serious about the basics of how a MPC runs.

**T-Duke** · January 15, 2012, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by CptAustus

If it was a minor or simple error, it would have been fixed by now. Its probably something serious about the basics of how a MPC runs.

ok, it may occours but therefore do not advertise a "false" feature

http://forums.totalwar.com/forumdisp...layer-Campaign

**leSith** · January 16, 2012, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by CptAustus

If it was a minor or simple error, it would have been fixed by now. Its probably something serious about the basics of how a MPC runs.

Generating an hash code on savegame data , checking if equals , if not find diff and then exchanges files or just wrong data ? Difficult ? I don t think so , the most difficult thing was making the mp campaign they might have spent months on it, such a fix will take them days perhaps 1 week at most for 1 or 2 devs.

Sure it s an ugly fix but at least it ll fix desync problems while they work on the best solution which is avoiding such differences ( desync ) and I would be happy. The files are not that big and I guess you don t have to check every data.

We can provide them files if they like as our campaign is desync. I ll be happy to help.

**emotion_name** · January 16, 2012, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by CptAustus

If it was a minor or simple error, it would have been fixed by now. Its probably something serious about the basics of how a MPC runs.

Oh i dont doubt it for a second, especially with all the hype surrounding MPC - if they could have sorted it they would have. This is why i ask for Hotseats to be included in every TW game, quite simply Hotseats work and MPC doesnt, so while they figure out how to give us the latter one in full working state, allow us to play the former pleeeeeeease!

Funnily enough, after posting my reply here yesterday, i checked the "users browsing this thread" and who should i see? Jack Lusted, from CA, so at least they know people still struggling to enjoy an MPC!

Every cloud an all that....!

**leSith** · January 16, 2012, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by emotion_name

Oh i dont doubt it for a second, especially with all the hype surrounding MPC - if they could have sorted it they would have. This is why i ask for Hotseats to be included in every TW game, quite simply Hotseats work and MPC doesnt, so while they figure out how to give us the latter one in full working state, allow us to play the former pleeeeeeease!

Funnily enough, after posting my reply here yesterday, i checked the "users browsing this thread" and who should i see? Jack Lusted, from CA, so at least they know people still struggling to enjoy an MPC!

Every cloud an all that....!

Well I enjoyed the hotseat system , however I really to go back to it. MPC is what I ve been waiting for since RTW ( I started playing total war with MTW , the best strategy video games in my opinion ).

The problem with the current state of MPC is that at turn 80+ it turns into hotseat ! We have to exchange our savegame by Internet almost every turn wich is long , boring , annoying and extremly frustating.

I really hope they ll fix it. But I m not oppose at all that they let the choice for those who enjoy it for hotseat system.

What I really expect is this desync nightmare to be fixed. And it s not just an easy rant thread i d like to help if they allow me to. Perhaps we ( mpc players ) should upload our desync save game ( server and client )

**emotion_name** · January 16, 2012, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by leSith

Well I enjoyed the hotseat system , however I really to go back to it. MPC is what I ve been waiting for since RTW ( I started playing total war with MTW , the best strategy video games in my opinion ).

The problem with the current state of MPC is that at turn 80+ it turns into hotseat ! We have to exchange our savegame by Internet almost every turn wich is long , boring , annoying and extremly frustating.

I really hope they ll fix it. But I m not oppose at all that they let the choice for those who enjoy it for hotseat system.

What I really expect is this desync nightmare to be fixed. And it s not just an easy rant thread i d like to help if they allow me to. Perhaps we ( mpc players ) should upload our desync save game ( server and client )

Yeah, i would happily help if i could as well, MPC has been the next logical step in the TW series since M2TW and when it eventually works right it will be immense.

My point is, if CA cannot give us stable, working MPC then please give us back Hotseats whilst they figure out how to do a stable MPC!

Im not too tech savvy and whatever, but would it help things if CA had dedicated MPC servers, so no-one is actually the host. One of you sets the game up and invites the other one, but its CA servers considered as the host, and the server could apply relevant files (save etc) to each player at end of each turn. Does this make sense to you? I know what im trying to say, just having difficulty putting it into text!

I really wanted to see a 4 person MPC available in TW games, but until they sort out a 2 player one i cant see that happening!

**leSith** · January 16, 2012, 08:43 AM

To Admin thank you indeed for putting this thread out !

like that no CA member will ever check it , no one will help and all of the thread on the general dicussion will be whinning about no mod tools , crazy new map for NTW and request for WWI....

It has to be on the main page please.

It s not a bug report CA are aware of it.

We just need answers about the work being made on it. And perhaps get away with this desync problem once and for all by providing them saves and feedback on it.

Putting this thread back where it has to be ( general discussion ) will be greatly appriciated.

Regards

**talljoe** · January 30, 2012, 05:39 PM

OP, I'm so frustrated by this. IMO, it should be CA's #1 issue. My friend and I just played a long VH mp coop campaign... only to have it star desynching right as we were about to seige Kyoto. We've swapped save files, which helps it limp along for 5 or 6 more turns, but then it starts to desynch again. Unlike most complaints, this is quite literally a "game breaking" issue.